Why was James Toney such a waste

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by sicko
    All Time Great Middleweight WTF are you talking about "Waste"
    ATG Middleweight how?

    What do you consider the criteria for someone to be an ATG in a weight class? It’s usually Top 10 and he is no where even remotely close to that.

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      #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      ATG Middleweight how?

      What do you consider the criteria for someone to be an ATG in a weight class? It’s usually Top 10 and he is no where even remotely close to that.
      Correction, I take back "All Time Great" that is a bit much BUT I would say Toney had a Good Run at 160 beating Nunn, McCallum and I think Barkley was at 160? or might have been 168 I remember him fighting Barkley after the McCallum Rematch

      Toney was in a bit of a Cold ERA, he was the ERA after Hagler and Leonard in which Boxing in those Lower Division went Cold and just wasn't as hot so no question Toney started slacking and was winning fights on Talent alone and not working hard BUT still Managed to put together a Hall of Fame Career so it can't be considered a "Waste" of course he could've did somethings Better

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        #33
        Originally posted by sicko

        Correction, I take back "All Time Great" that is a bit much BUT I would say Toney had a Good Run at 160 beating Nunn, McCallum and I think Barkley was at 160? or might have been 168 I remember him fighting Barkley after the McCallum Rematch

        Toney was in a bit of a Cold ERA, he was the ERA after Hagler and Leonard in which Boxing in those Lower Division went Cold and just wasn't as hot so no question Toney started slacking and was winning fights on Talent alone and not working hard BUT still Managed to put together a Hall of Fame Career so it can't be considered a "Waste" of course he could've did somethings Better
        He had a decent run at 160, not overly impressive.

        Barkley was at 168.

        He beat Nunn, after being dominated for most of the fight. Good win.

        He had a draw with McCallum and a win over McCallum, I thought he lost the second fight but was either way.

        He beat Reggie Johnson, quality fighter but that’s another one I thought he lost. But was another either way fight.

        He lost to Dave Tiberi, drew with Sanderline Williams, arguably lost to Sosa.



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          #34
          Originally posted by sicko
          All Time Great Middleweight WTF are you talking about "Waste"
          ATG?

          jesus wept lad that’s a big stretch. You do know he only held the ibf right and didn’t exactly clean out the division. Now could he have been a mw atg? Possibly but he wasted his talent

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            #35
            Originally posted by Gideon lock

            Toney is a legend I respect him for fighting and training for years with low t shows you how skilled he actually was. Nothing to do with eating.

            "I went to the doctor on the advice of some people that work closely with me and found out that I was suffering from thyroid problems as well as low testosterone problems," Toney told Percy Crawford at Fighthype.

            Toney claims that medication he was given following surgery (to repair two torn bicep muscles after his 2004 victory over Rydell Booker) was the culprit in this weighty problem.

            "They gave me a lot of medication and it caused me to have a low testosterone count as well as thyroid problems. My weight has been hit and miss ever since then and I didn't understand why," he says.

            Toney is now on medication to correct his health issues, and says his weight is now in the "low 240s" after being 257 only weeks ago.

            Feeling reborn and confident, Toney has now resumed his usual obscenity-laced trash talking, setting his sights a little higher than boxing writers this time, but not as high as the Klitschko brothers.

            Thus, former light-heavyweight king turned heavyweight Antonio Tarver.

            "I'm about to be back to the Rydell Booker and Holyfield form," Toney says"
            The most probable cause of James Toney's low testosterone is long-term use of anabolic steroids without appropriate PCT (post-cycle therapy). Obesity doesn't help, either.

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              #36
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              without the excessive eating, he would've never become heavyweight champ and knocking out Evander Holyfield.


              James Toney >>> Mike Tyson


              fat Toney would mug Tyson heads up too.
              Holyfield was 41

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