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  • #61
    Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

    What it's looking like is Bud angling for a way out.

    Show me the long line of fighters complaining about their pay from PBC?
    Didn't Broner pretty much air them out but was silenced while basically saying another fighter said the same thing. Their cards slowed down and fighters were fighting less when their guarantees started decreasing. There's been signs of some things being shaky at PBC for a bit but they have shown a united front publicly, as they should.

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    • #62
      PBC is scared. Once Spence is beat they have nothing.

      They clearly want to keep everything inhouse.

      Crazy how people will jump all over Arum for being shady, but will give Haymon a pass.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

        He already acquiesced to the smaller purse. He just wants to see what his guarantee will be. Whats so hard about that? Thats not anything more than making sure he gets WHAT THEY TOLD HIM.
        That's a good start, As a matter of fact. It's a very good start. However, unfortunately I am afraid that he is going to have to concede even more ground in order to make this fight happen. That is if he really wants the fight.

        No one is going to twist Al Haymon's arm or hustle him into doing something that he doesn't want to do. It's hard to con a con man. If Crawford really wants the fight then he must be willing to do so on the PBCs terms and not his own.

        It's very similar what Devin Haney had to do against George Kambosos, Jr. To become the undisputed lightweight champion of the world.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post

          Didn't Broner pretty much air them out but was silenced while basically saying another fighter said the same thing. Their cards slowed down and fighters were fighting less when their guarantees started decreasing. There's been signs of some things being shaky at PBC for a bit but they have shown a united front publicly, as they should.
          I would never take the word of Broner regarding anything.

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          • #65
            Haymon ruining fights as usual. Good thing he has Wilder Helenius $75 PPV though.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

              That's a good start, As a matter of fact. It's a very good start. However, unfortunately I am afraid that he is going to have to concede even more ground in order to make this fight happen. That is if he really wants the fight.

              No one is going to twist Al Haymon's arm or hustle him into doing something that he doesn't want to do. It's hard to con a con man. If Crawford really wants the fight then he must be willing to do so on the PBCs terms and not his own.

              It's very similar what Devin Haney had to do against George Kambosos, Jr. To become the undisputed lightweight champion of the world.
              Devin Haney actually got guaranteed he would get paid something though.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                So in other words, you have nothing to back it up. Thanks.

                You've got 20 comments in this thread, but I'm the cheerleading weirdo?

                I can't wait till Spence TKOs this fraud.
                Bet accounts

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                  Division champion, lineal, and undisputed don't mean squat when it comes time to divide the pie. The only thing that matters are your numbers and how much money you've been able to generate.

                  Which unfortunately for Crawford hasn't been that much, and everybody knows it since his old promoter talked publicly about losing money on him.

                  Spence is a brother too. Although I don't know what race has to do with it or why you felt the need to bring it up.
                  Splits are based on what your promoter can pay you. 50,000 posts later you still don't know sh**t about boxing.

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                  • #69
                    Imagine asking Bob Arum to open the Books, Bud would've been laughed out of the Top Rank Office

                    Yeah no Promoter in boxing is doing that especially not for Cawford...maybe for Canelo who is actually a Draw but not for Bud hell now. Hell, even Canelo couldn't get GBP to agree to open their Books. Not even in Court, they just Settled and gave him his release to become a Promotional Free Agent instead of opening the Books.

                    Up his Guarantee drastically is the likely Solution to get this done

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                    • #70
                      It's very simple.

                      PBC is treating Crawford like an outsider, which he is, with very little power at the negotiation table because he isn't a guaranteed profit. PBC views Bud as a financial risk, but for the sake of the possibility of the risk being positive, they're negotiating.

                      Crawford is making demands and PBC is basically looking at him like "bro, you're doing too much, all that p4p stuff doesn't matter when it comes to business". Him being an outsider and also not a big money maker is the reason why PBC is handling him the way they are. They're not giving him a guaranteed purse because in reality they don't know how well this fight will do. BOB ARUM KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE SAID ALL THE MONEY HE LOST ON BUD. He knew it would make Bud be in a situation where he'd either be forced to make LESS money than he did with him or go back to him. Once again, Bud is an outsider and he's basically asking PBC to give him their business model and they're not willing to do that. It's basically like "you need us we don't need you" and Bud isn't going for that. But Bud has to realize that Bob kept him paid like that because he wanted to keep him from PBC and had hopes of him being a Mayweather type of draw, he tried to learn from his mistake of losing Floyd but TC just never became what he hoped

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