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  • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    Foreman did quit, but prior to that destroyed hall of famer Joe Frazier twice, destroyed hall of famer ken Norton, and when he came back in his 40’s never touched the canvas and beat undefeated world champion Moore. Holmes lost to spinks when he was past his prime and nearly 50 fights in. Most had him clearly winning the rematch with spinks (not getting spammed in the rematch like Aj vs Usyk) and in his 40’s came back and beat an undefeated world champion Ray Mercer. The same one who got jerked against your hero Lennox Lewis (the Jamaican from Canada). As far as Holmes wins, other than Mercer, he beat ken Norton, shavers, cooney, weaver, Berbick, Witherspoon, Williams , bonecrusher smith. I won’t even count past prime Ali. Sh**s all over Ajs resume. There’s your answer now go ahead and :

    Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc.​
    I'll take this at a couple of points at a time so as not to address a mass of your points with one big post and have you deflect like crazy all the time.

    I don't care about you moving the goalposts. You said AJ was a quitter who had no heart and a glass chin. If this is the description of AJ, then it definitely is for Foreman. Give me specifically where AJ supposedly proves to be a quitter, having no heart and a glass chin? Be very mindful of your answer here. Your contradictions and hypocrisy are out of control.

    If losing to a great Cruiserweight is something that supposedly proves you're overrated and a hype job. Why would beating an even smaller fighter in Moorer who was a Lightheavy, mean anything for Foreman? The hypocrisy here is extreme. Really extreme.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      I'll take this at a couple of points at a time so as not to address a mass of your points with one big post and have you deflect like crazy all the time.

      I don't care about you moving the goalposts. You said AJ was a quitter who had no heart and a glass chin. If this is the description of AJ, then it definitely is for Foreman. Give me specifically where AJ supposedly proves to be a quitter, having no heart and a glass chin? Be very mindful of your answer here. Your contradictions and hypocrisy are out of control.

      If losing to a great Cruiserweight is something that supposedly proves you're overrated and a hype job. Why would beating an even smaller fighter in Moorer who was a Lightheavy, mean anything for Foreman? The hypocrisy here is extreme. Really extreme.
      in the ring bs Ruiz, Aj quit. Even the announcer said “I think he wants out” right before the ref mercifully stopped the fight. For Foreman vs Michael Moore , there are 2 major things you’re missing. 1. Foreman was in his mid 40’s. Big difference from a prime Aj. 2. Moore established himself at heavyweight by beating Evander Holyfield (someone who everyone agrees is one of the elite heavyweights in history). Usyk on the other hand hadn’t established himself at hw and was struggling with chisora for gods sake. He didn’t look good at all at hw until facing the limited overhyped Aj. If you’re going to make comparisons, make accurate ones. Bozo.

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      • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        in the ring bs Ruiz, Aj quit. Even the announcer said “I think he wants out” right before the ref mercifully stopped the fight. For Foreman vs Michael Moore , there are 2 major things you’re missing. 1. Foreman was in his mid 40’s. Big difference from a prime Aj. 2. Moore established himself at heavyweight by beating Evander Holyfield (someone who everyone agrees is one of the elite heavyweights in history). Usyk on the other hand hadn’t established himself at hw and was struggling with chisora for gods sake. He didn’t look good at all at hw until facing the limited overhyped Aj. If you’re going to make comparisons, make accurate ones. Bozo.
        AJ quit because an announcer made a comment? That's your evidence? What do you think they'd do in a court of law if you produced something so laughable? That is not him quitting. Give me the evidence where he quit. Don't keep giving me your pathetic fallacies. Where is his lack of heart and glass chin too? Point out the specifics? Are you ******? Do you want this question in French or something?

        Again, the point was that the smaller fighter is an embarrassment. But Moorer is even smaller. But you're going to move those goalposts and bring a load of fallacies again? You're the one who made the comment. Play this deranged game all you want, it won't work.

        Is a Heavyweight losing to a smaller fighter pathetic? Yes or no? If it's a yes, then beating one is pathetic also. The win doesn't mean anything. If it's a no, you've contradicted yourself again. So, which is it?

        Usyk has beaten Chisora and AJ twice. He's established. I don't care about you claiming he "Struggled" because i can point out like for like situations for all the fighters you named doing likewise. But you'll play games to get out of it because your narcissism can't stand the fact that i put you in your place and expose you without even trying.

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        • wilder has beaten 2 top 10 fighters and one was 40 and huffing for air. the other was only in the top 10 because he beat arreola who himself has never beaten anyone in the top 10. such a weird sport. i dont think thats hall of fame worthy at all but maybe that zelenoff fight puts him over the top?

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            AJ quit because an announcer made a comment? That's your evidence? What do you think they'd do in a court of law if you produced something so laughable? That is not him quitting. Give me the evidence where he quit. Don't keep giving me your pathetic fallacies. Where is his lack of heart and glass chin too? Point out the specifics? Are you ******? Do you want this question in French or something?

            Again, the point was that the smaller fighter is an embarrassment. But Moorer is even smaller. But you're going to move those goalposts and bring a load of fallacies again? You're the one who made the comment. Play this deranged game all you want, it won't work.

            Is a Heavyweight losing to a smaller fighter pathetic? Yes or no? If it's a yes, then beating one is pathetic also. The win doesn't mean anything. If it's a no, you've contradicted yourself again. So, which is it?

            Usyk has beaten Chisora and AJ twice. He's established. I don't care about you claiming he "Struggled" because i can point out like for like situations for all the fighters you named doing likewise. But you'll play games to get out of it because your narcissism can't stand the fact that i put you in your place and expose you without even trying.
            no Aj quit because he fkn quit. He stopped responding which is why the announcer made the call he did. You can be in denial all you want but that’s what happened. I’m done letting you think you have any say so in this thread or in the other one as I’ve proven my point in both or all you do is run in circles. You’ve already been owned so now all that matters is you need to back your stance up in front of everyone.
            Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc.​​

            Nothing else you say on either thread matters until you stand by the above ret@rd statements.

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            • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              no Aj quit because he fkn quit. He stopped responding which is why the announcer made the call he did. You can be in denial all you want but that’s what happened. I’m done letting you think you have any say so in this thread or in the other one as I’ve proven my point in both or all you do is run in circles. You’ve already been owned so now all that matters is you need to back your stance up in front of everyone.
              Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc.​​

              Nothing else you say on either thread matters until you stand by the above ret@rd statements.
              So you can't actually point out where AJ supposedly quit? It's because he didn't. He responded to the ref's instructions. Anything else is a delusion. You had two goes and failed each time.

              Where in his career did he lack heart? Why can't you point it out? Where specifically did he show a glass chin? I can feel your desperation to run away. It's hilarious. Do you want to run because you're being humiliated and can't be direct with simple questions because you're delusional and have a raging inferiority complex you like to project? Just the fact you're very uncomfortable in backing anything up shows how little confidence you have in the laughable nonsense you spew. But you're feeling me close in more and more like i used to do and you can't stand it. No wonder Spence and Crawford isn't happening when all you have is delusional cowards in your country. People like you are typical. But so easy to slap around.

              Moorer is out. It meant nothing. I had it as a good win but you had to put your foot in it. Can't be contradicting yourself and spewing crazy hypocrisy.

              Now let's move on to Norton. You put your foot in it again by making excuses for Ali and why he lost to Norton 3 times. So if beating Ali meant nothing due to Parkinson's syndrome as you said, and all he has other than that is a robbery over Jimmy Young. Who did Norton beat that not only made him a good world class fighter. Who did he beat to become this supposed HOF'er? It seems to be he's nothing more than a decent fringe level guy. But you're going to give me this ATG resume i'm sure.

              Do Rocky Marciano too. No old or smaller fighters. I want fighters who have proven themselves by beating world class heavyweights. Write down his resume that makes that bum an ATG.

              Why would i want to engage with freaks like you who know nothing about boxing and can't even support what you think you know? Do you not know boxing like you claimed? Why am i dominating you then? A coward always needs likeminded freaks to justify their delusions. How sad. Pack hunters need others to hold their hand because they have nothing to offer. You don't see me wanting to run away and hope some freak will come to my aid.

              See you soon.

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                So you can't actually point out where AJ supposedly quit? It's because he didn't. He responded to the ref's instructions. Anything else is a delusion. You had two goes and failed each time.

                Where in his career did he lack heart? Why can't you point it out? Where specifically did he show a glass chin? I can feel your desperation to run away. It's hilarious. Do you want to run because you're being humiliated and can't be direct with simple questions because you're delusional and have a raging inferiority complex you like to project? Just the fact you're very uncomfortable in backing anything up shows how little confidence you have in the laughable nonsense you spew. But you're feeling me close in more and more like i used to do and you can't stand it. No wonder Spence and Crawford isn't happening when all you have is delusional cowards in your country. People like you are typical. But so easy to slap around.

                Moorer is out. It meant nothing. I had it as a good win but you had to put your foot in it. Can't be contradicting yourself and spewing crazy hypocrisy.

                Now let's move on to Norton. You put your foot in it again by making excuses for Ali and why he lost to Norton 3 times. So if beating Ali meant nothing due to Parkinson's syndrome as you said, and all he has other than that is a robbery over Jimmy Young. Who did Norton beat that not only made him a good world class fighter. Who did he beat to become this supposed HOF'er? It seems to be he's nothing more than a decent fringe level guy. But you're going to give me this ATG resume i'm sure.

                Do Rocky Marciano too. No old or smaller fighters. I want fighters who have proven themselves by beating world class heavyweights. Write down his resume that makes that bum an ATG.

                Why would i want to engage with freaks like you who know nothing about boxing and can't even support what you think you know? Do you not know boxing like you claimed? Why am i dominating you then? A coward always needs likeminded freaks to justify their delusions. How sad. Pack hunters need others to hold their hand because they have nothing to offer. You don't see me wanting to run away and hope some freak will come to my aid.

                See you soon.
                read the first paragraph and won’t read the rest because it’s all bullshet. He quit right before the ref stopped the fight. What so hard to understand ret@rd? He wanted out of that fight , he also passively quit in the later rounds in both Usyk fights. Especially the first. He only tried to survive and then d****d himself over the ropes at the end of the fight like a cowardly b****h. Even after the rematch and his weirdo nut bag rant he admitted he can’t do 12 effective rounds. Fkn clown.

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                • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                  read the first paragraph and won’t read the rest because it’s all bullshet. He quit right before the ref stopped the fight. What so hard to understand ret@rd? He wanted out of that fight , he also passively quit in the later rounds in both Usyk fights. Especially the first. He only tried to survive and then d****d himself over the ropes at the end of the fight like a cowardly b****h. Even after the rematch and his weirdo nut bag rant he admitted he can’t do 12 effective rounds. Fkn clown.
                  How is it possible to quit before the ref stops it? Huh? You're trying to force a narrative that is laughable. Getting tired is quitting? So any American fighter in history who was tired in any part of the fight when losing, is quitting yeah?

                  At the end of the first fight it was clear AJ was exhausted. To even try and cast it down as having anything to do with cowardice is someone who is desperate to discredit someone. Only people who are bitter and insecure go out to discredit someone in this deranged way. Narcissists do so when they're threatened by someone they have an inferiority complex over. And as you can see, we've clearly established that in you.

                  Holyfield quit against Bowe in fight number 2. Hopkins quit against Calzaghe. Jones quit against Johnson. Toney quit against Jones. Louis quit against Schmelling in fight 1. Damn, i could be here all day.

                  Now tell me where AJ had a supposed glass chin?

                  Tell me who Norton beat considering Ali had Parkinson's therefore they meant nothing. And the Young fight was a robbery. Tell me what made him world class and a HOF'er? List the wins.

                  Tell me what made Marciano an ATG? I want actual world class Heavies. Not "Old " or smaller fighters.

                  See you soon.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    How is it possible to quit before the ref stops it? Huh? You're trying to force a narrative that is laughable. Getting tired is quitting? So any American fighter in history who was tired in any part of the fight when losing, is quitting yeah?

                    At the end of the first fight it was clear AJ was exhausted. To even try and cast it down as having anything to do with cowardice is someone who is desperate to discredit someone. Only people who are bitter and insecure go out to discredit someone in this deranged way. Narcissists do so when they're threatened by someone they have an inferiority complex over. And as you can see, we've clearly established that in you.

                    Holyfield quit against Bowe in fight number 2. Hopkins quit against Calzaghe. Jones quit against Johnson. Toney quit against Jones. Louis quit against Schmelling in fight 1. Damn, i could be here all day.

                    Now tell me where AJ had a supposed glass chin?

                    Tell me who Norton beat considering Ali had Parkinson's therefore they meant nothing. And the Young fight was a robbery. Tell me what made him world class and a HOF'er? List the wins.

                    Tell me what made Marciano an ATG? I want actual world class Heavies. Not "Old " or smaller fighters.

                    See you soon.
                    So Holyfield quit vs Bowe in the 2nd fight? How, when he won that fight. Lmaooo. You really don’t know sh** about boxing. I’m no longer responding to 2 threads your thirsty for attention euro trash bag. Do the following or stfu.

                    Create a thread on this site and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc.​​​

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                    • I’d say Wilder is the heavyweight Julian Jackson — isn’t he in the Hall of Fame?

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