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  • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    That piece of sh** resume for Naz is what you consider elite?? Lmfaoooooooo. Gtfoh clown.

    1. Is Aj more popular than he was good aka overrated by ****** UK boxing fans?
    2. Did Hearn rank Aj as greater than proven hall of famers? Yes or no.​
    3. Who has a greater boxing legacy the US or the Uk.​
    So you can't name the elites Marciano and Holmes fought? I've given you enough times to answer. But as i said, we both know why you can't list their elites. If Naz never beat any, they didn't come close to doing so. You would have listed them otherwise.

    Answer 1: AJ isn't more popular than he was good as no Heavyweight in history has fought and beaten that kind of opposition in 27 fights. You judge like for like. Not when a fighter is still active and compare them against fighters who have already had their full career. That is ******. But that is what you are.

    Answer 2: Eddie not only didn't promote AJ as a HOF'er like you originally claimed, but he didn't put him before any other HOF'er otherwise you would have listed them and justified why they were supposedly HOF worthy. You didn't. You ran and deflected as per usual. You're supposed to support your arguments, not get dominated and forced to deflect because you're scared for good reason after shouting your mouth off the way you do only to go silent when the questions come where your comments are concerned.

    Now, let's do question 3 you used as a deflection.

    Lennox Lewis.
    Nigel Benn.
    Owen Moran.
    Bob Fitzsimmons.
    Jimmy Wilde.
    Ted "Kid" Lewis.
    Jack "Kid" Berg.
    Joe Burman.
    Joe Calzaghe.
    Jimmy McLarnin.
    Johnny Cuthbert.
    Matt Wells.
    Jim Driscoll.
    Carl Froch.
    Naseem Hamed.
    Chris Eubank.
    Phil Bloom.
    Freddie Welsh.
    Freddie Mills
    Charley White.

    There is 20 ATG's. As the US has 5 x our numbers, you need to give me 100 ATG's just to match it. If you do, i'll put a load more up and ask you to match that also. But this will do for now.

    P.S When you claim Lennox isn't British but Candain/Jamaican in order to limit our greats out of insecurity the way you do. You're then not supposed to write your bitter nonsense as though he's British again. It's not only another contradiction from you f3ck face, it's another example of hypocrisy too.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      So you can't name the elites Marciano and Holmes fought? I've given you enough times to answer. But as i said, we both know why you can't list their elites. If Naz never beat any, they didn't come close to doing so. You would have listed them otherwise.

      Answer 1: AJ isn't more popular than he was good as no Heavyweight in history has fought and beaten that kind of opposition in 27 fights. You judge like for like. Not when a fighter is still active and compare them against fighters who have already had their full career. That is ******. But that is what you are.

      Answer 2: Eddie not only didn't promote AJ as a HOF'er like you originally claimed, but he didn't put him before any other HOF'er otherwise you would have listed them and justified why they were supposedly HOF worthy. You didn't. You ran and deflected as per usual. You're supposed to support your arguments, not get dominated and forced to deflect because you're scared for good reason after shouting your mouth off the way you do only to go silent when the questions come where your comments are concerned.

      Now, let's do question 3 you used as a deflection.

      Lennox Lewis.
      Nigel Benn.
      Owen Moran.
      Bob Fitzsimmons.
      Jimmy Wilde.
      Ted "Kid" Lewis.
      Jack "Kid" Berg.
      Joe Burman.
      Joe Calzaghe.
      Jimmy McLarnin.
      Johnny Cuthbert.
      Matt Wells.
      Jim Driscoll.
      Carl Froch.
      Naseem Hamed.
      Chris Eubank.
      Phil Bloom.
      Freddie Welsh.
      Freddie Mills
      Charley White.

      There is 20 ATG's. As the US has 5 x our numbers, you need to give me 100 ATG's just to match it. If you do, i'll put a load more up and ask you to match that also. But this will do for now.

      P.S When you claim Lennox isn't British but Candain/Jamaican in order to limit our greats out of insecurity the way you do. You're then not supposed to write your bitter nonsense as though he's British again. It's not only another contradiction from you f3ck face, it's another example of hypocrisy too.
      answer 1. You’re wrong. He’s clearly more popular than he was good. Filled up stadiums but got thrashed by 2 underdogs while in his prime.
      answer 2. You’re lying again. Aj is nowhere near as great as Holmes, Joe Louis , Marciano, Jack Johnson, Dempsey, he didn’t even list Klitchko who is Ajs best win and that was a 40 yr old version coming off a loss and long layoff. Hell, Joshua doesn’t even match up well with vitali Klitchko. I don’t have to defend why each of these guys should he hall of famers because the fact is, they are hall of famers and most are in every credible top 10 list of heavyweights.

      answer 3- you want to compare that pathetic sh** list to American fighters such as Ali, Louis, Robinson, Leonard, hagler, hearns , Jones, mayweather, Holyfield, Holmes, Toney, foreman, etc? What a fkn joke you are.

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      • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        answer 1. You’re wrong. He’s clearly more popular than he was good. Filled up stadiums but got thrashed by 2 underdogs while in his prime.
        answer 2. You’re lying again. Aj is nowhere near as great as Holmes, Joe Louis , Marciano, Jack Johnson, Dempsey, he didn’t even list Klitchko who is Ajs best win and that was a 40 yr old version coming off a loss and long layoff. Hell, Joshua doesn’t even match up well with vitali Klitchko. I don’t have to defend why each of these guys should he hall of famers because the fact is, they are hall of famers and most are in every credible top 10 list of heavyweights.

        answer 3- you want to compare that pathetic sh** list to American fighters such as Ali, Louis, Robinson, Leonard, hagler, hearns , Jones, mayweather, Holyfield, Holmes, Toney, foreman, etc? What a fkn joke you are.
        Which fighters fought and beat the fighters AJ did within 27 fights at Heavyweight? It's a simple question but you want to get out of it. Why are you shy?

        Tell me the elites all those fighters beat to prove it.

        You clearly don't know the fighters i listed. You should check out their resumes. These fighters here couldn't even touch the sides. Toney, Holmes, Louis, Foreman... ? Hahahahahahaha. Ted "Kid" Lewis has a resume better than all these fighters combined. Lewis has 37 ATG wins without counting the good, very good, or great wins. Try that one again. F3cking Foreman and Toney. And there isn't close to a hundred to match us on a per capita basis. Where are they? You better be coming up with vastly superior fighters and a lot more of them than this shlt.

        See you soon.

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        • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          Which fighters fought and beat the fighters AJ did within 27 fights at Heavyweight? It's a simple question but you want to get out of it. Why are you shy?

          Tell me the elites all those fighters beat to prove it.

          You clearly don't know the fighters i listed. You should check out their resumes. These fighters here couldn't even touch the sides. Toney, Holmes, Louis, Foreman... ? Hahahahahahaha. Ted "Kid" Lewis has a resume better than all these fighters combined. Lewis has 37 ATG wins without counting the good, very good, or great wins. Try that one again. F3cking Foreman and Toney. And there isn't close to a hundred to match us on a per capita basis. Where are they? You better be coming up with vastly superior fighters and a lot more of them than this shlt.

          See you soon.
          Ted the kid Lewis? Lmaooooooooooooooo. Gtfoh. You’re clearly trolling. Or a ret@rd. I’m leaning towards the latter though. Your parents are brother and sister right?

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          • Wilder can’t hold a candle to The Greatest, Muhammad Ali. But he’s still an exciting and dominant fighter in a relatively weak heavyweight era. He can’t beat the guys from other eras. If he fights the best and only has the draw and two losses to Fury, he deserves a ticket to the Hall of Fame in my view.

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            • While I don't any of these HW's are HOF worthy, no one can get mad at them thinking they are.
              How else are they supposed to think of themselves ?

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              • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                Ted the kid Lewis? Lmaooooooooooooooo. Gtfoh. You’re clearly trolling. Or a ret@rd. I’m leaning towards the latter though. Your parents are brother and sister right?
                I got it wrong with the ATG wins being at 37. It's actually 43 for Ted "Kid" Lewis. As for the delusion in thinking i'm trolling by putting a real ATG down, it just goes to show how laughable and clueless you really are. That's why you gave me the shlt list you actually did. You only know what you're told to think. You can't actually break it down and explain why you believe the nonsense you do. I on the other hand can do so with all the fighters i named. You can't even with the ones you did name. That's why you're scared to do so. You just dig and dig and dig...

                However. You said AJ had no heart, a glass chin and was exposed when losing to a Cruiserweight. This is why i'm laughing at you.

                Not only are Holmes, Louis and Foreman not ATG's. But you messed up when naming them. Here's why...

                Is Foreman not a glass jawed hype job losing to Young in getting dominated and dropped by someone not far from being a journeyman? Is Foreman not a quitter after retiring in his prime from that loss? Then look at their weights. Young is the smaller man.

                Holyfield, the guy who was on performance enhancers his whole Heavyweight career and was exposed as such? The Cruiserweight fighter? Doesn't that mean all the Heavyweights he beat meant they were hype jobs exposed by the smaller man and are therefore, laughable? Holyfield, the fighter who lost to a Lightheavy in Moorer? Therefore, Holyfield was exposed too in many ways.

                Holmes, the Heavyweight beaten by a Lightheavy also in Spinks twice?

                Louis, the Heavyweight who was dominated, outclassed, dropped and stopped by a finished Max Schmelling? Louis, who was dominated by Lightheavy Conn and rocked? The only reason Louis was able to come back was down to Conn being ****** and going in for the finish. This allowed Louis to land his bigger punches and end the fight. All he had to do Conn was be smart and he would have won the title in dominant fashion.

                So my question is this....

                Are these more popular than they were good aka overrated by ****** US boxing fans? And you actually consider these ATG's. They're not. You couldn't support that. In fact, you'll contradict yourself. Deflect. Show hypocrisy. Cower and refuse to back up anything you say because you can't.

                Now let me see you come back with that quitting mentality of "Do you think i'm reading all that LOL..." Haha.

                See you soon.
                Last edited by Sid-Knee; 10-20-2022, 04:57 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  I got it wrong with the ATG wins being at 37. It's actually 43 for Ted "Kid" Lewis. As for the delusion in thinking i'm trolling by putting a real ATG down, it just goes to show how laughable and clueless you really are. That's why you gave me the shlt list you actually did. You only know what you're told to think. You can't actually break it down and explain why you believe the nonsense you do. I on the other hand can do so with all the fighters i named. You can't even with the ones you did name. That's why you're scared to do so. You just dig and dig and dig...

                  However. You said AJ had no heart, a glass chin and was exposed when losing to a Cruiserweight. This is why i'm laughing at you.

                  Not only are Holmes, Louis and Foreman not ATG's. But you messed up when naming them. Here's why...

                  Is Foreman not a glass jawed hype job losing to Young in getting dominated and dropped by someone not far from being a journeyman? Is Foreman not a quitter after retiring in his prime from that loss? Then look at their weights. Young is the smaller man.

                  Holyfield, the guy who was on performance enhancers his whole Heavyweight career and was exposed as such? The Cruiserweight fighter? Doesn't that mean all the Heavyweights he beat meant they were hype jobs exposed by the smaller man and are therefore, laughable? Holyfield, the fighter who lost to a Lightheavy in Moorer? Therefore, Holyfield was exposed too in many ways.

                  Holmes, the Heavyweight beaten by a Lightheavy also in Spinks twice?

                  Louis, the Heavyweight who was dominated, outclassed, dropped and stopped by a finished Max Schmelling? Louis, who was dominated by Lightheavy Conn and rocked? The only reason Louis was able to come back was down to Conn being ****** and going in for the finish. This allowed Louis to land his bigger punches and end the fight. All he had to do Conn was be smart and he would have won the title in dominant fashion.

                  So my question is this....

                  Are these more popular than they were good aka overrated by ****** US boxing fans? And you actually consider these ATG's. They're not. You couldn't support that. In fact, you'll contradict yourself. Deflect. Show hypocrisy. Cower and refuse to back up anything you say because you can't.

                  Now let me see you come back with that quitting mentality of "Do you think i'm reading all that LOL..." Haha.

                  See you soon.
                  you’re so desperate that you’re bringing up a fighter born in the 1800s to defend the honor of britains inferior boxing history. Lmaooo. Cut the sh** out ret@rd. Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc. I don’t wanna hear sh** from you until you defend this stance in front of a group of actual boxing fans. Something you don’t know anything about because all you are is a British groupie/ deepthroating Phag who hasn’t boxed a day in your life.

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                  • Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    you’re so desperate that you’re bringing up a fighter born in the 1800s to defend the honor of britains inferior boxing history. Lmaooo. Cut the sh** out ret@rd. Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc. I don’t wanna hear sh** from you until you defend this stance in front of a group of actual boxing fans. Something you don’t know anything about because all you are is a British groupie/ deepthroating Phag who hasn’t boxed a day in your life.
                    I'm asking you questions and all you can do is deflect like a little b1tch.

                    Did you not say AJ has a glass jaw? That he has no heart? He's a quitter? That's he's pathetic because he lost to a supposed Cruiserweight? This is what you said. So why is Foreman not a quitter by retiring in his prime after being dominated by Young? A journeyman level of fighter who was much lighter. A fighter who isn't even a puncher but he dropped Foreman and hurt him.

                    Why wasn't Holmes exposed when being beaten by an even lighter fighter in Spinks?

                    You said these were the reasons for why AJ was supposedly shlt. But look, you've dug yourself a huge hole the way you do. Hypocrisy and contradictions. Bitter inferiority complex. That's what you have.

                    Now answer the f3cking questions little man and stop with your pathetic and degrading excuse in trying not to justify your comments.

                    Then tell me who did Foreman and Holmes beat that makes them ATG's. What is so hard about that? Tell me what your system is in how you judge fighters? I have one. What is yours?

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      I'm asking you questions and all you can do is deflect like a little b1tch.

                      Did you not say AJ has a glass jaw? That he has no heart? He's a quitter? That's he's pathetic because he lost to a supposed Cruiserweight? This is what you said. So why is Foreman not a quitter by retiring in his prime after being dominated by Young? A journeyman level of fighter who was much lighter. A fighter who isn't even a puncher but he dropped Foreman and hurt him.

                      Why wasn't Holmes exposed when being beaten by an even lighter fighter in Spinks?

                      You said these were the reasons for why AJ was supposedly shlt. But look, you've dug yourself a huge hole the way you do. Hypocrisy and contradictions. Bitter inferiority complex. That's what you have.

                      Now answer the f3cking questions little man and stop with your pathetic and degrading excuse in trying not to justify your comments.

                      Then tell me who did Foreman and Holmes beat that makes them ATG's. What is so hard about that? Tell me what your system is in how you judge fighters? I have one. What is yours?
                      Foreman did quit, but prior to that destroyed hall of famer Joe Frazier twice, destroyed hall of famer ken Norton, and when he came back in his 40’s never touched the canvas and beat undefeated world champion Moore. Holmes lost to spinks when he was past his prime and nearly 50 fights in. Most had him clearly winning the rematch with spinks (not getting spammed in the rematch like Aj vs Usyk) and in his 40’s came back and beat an undefeated world champion Ray Mercer. The same one who got jerked against your hero Lennox Lewis (the Jamaican from Canada). As far as Holmes wins, other than Mercer, he beat ken Norton, shavers, cooney, weaver, Berbick, Witherspoon, Williams , bonecrusher smith. I won’t even count past prime Ali. Sh**s all over Ajs resume. There’s your answer now go ahead and :

                      Create a thread on this page and tell everyone how foreman had a glass jaw and doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc.​

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