How can Floyd think he is better than Roy Jones? Does he literally think he is better?

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  • TheOneAboveAll
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    #21
    Originally posted by darius45

    This is nonsense that everyone here keeps repeating.... HOW is Mayweather a better "boxer"... Does he slip better punches than Roy? NO... Does he throw punches with greater technical finesse? NO.... Roy also has a TECHNICALLY better left hook. He also had incredible footwork.

    One commentator, I think in the Vinnhy Paz fight, said that Roy had the best jab he had EVER seen... even better than sugar ray leonard... So again, another check in the "technical" "boxer" department.

    My point is that Floyd is not technically more proficient at doing the the normal "boxer" things than Roy is.
    In summary, Roy Jones Jr had a spectacular jab...against Vinny Pazienza. Context is always helpful. SRL and Floyd Mayweather were both far better technical boxers than Roy Jones. Roy Jones was repeatedly KO'd in his career by average and below average fighters. He was not a great boxer.
    Last edited by TheOneAboveAll; 09-26-2022, 02:50 PM.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #22
      he was better, better resume, better skill set, better career

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      • TheOneAboveAll
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        #23
        Originally posted by darius45

        Again no... Roy is the "ultimate" example of that... Without fundamental skills you can't use your athleticism... at least not to it's potential... To get the most out of your athleticism in boxing you have to be technical...

        If the sweet science is hit and not got it... who, in their prime, better exemplifies this?
        RJJr was repeatedly KO'd, by clean shots that a good technical fighter would never have been touched by. Floyd Mayweather fought better overall competition and dominated it more thoroughly. You have an unusual take on technical boxing.

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        • hugh grant
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          #24
          RJJ had a bigger aura of invincibikity. At one point people thought only lennox Lewis could beat him and holyfield. Many thought Pac could beat floyd.
          Floyd was never going to fight the guys fans and experts thought would beat floyd, so floyd did have aura of unlikely to be beat ever, due to match making more than anything. We knew he wasn't going to fight ggg, a healthy nelo, or the thurmans, spences, Bradley's etc
          Last edited by hugh grant; 09-26-2022, 03:10 PM.

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          • tonysoprano
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            #25
            RJJ should have retired after winning the HW strap. His subsequent career just eroded his legacy. Floyd was smart enough never to go too far out of his lane and kept himself fresher by fighting less.

            So yeh i can understand why Floyd ranks himself above RJJ.

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              #26
              Originally posted by darius45
              So is it all a marketing ploy or does Floyd believe his own hype?
              A marketing ploy needs a foundation of substance.
              I'm marketing a product to cure aging.
              I'm rich AF.
              Did it work ?

              And what's wrong with a person believing they are ''TBE'' ?

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                #27
                Originally posted by darius45
                Floyd's big shtick is that he is "TBE" aka the best ever... This is in part a marketing gimmick but when you watch Floyd do interviews you start to think he GENUINELY thinks he's the best, most talents boxer ever.

                In terms of natural talent he is one of the best... But he is CLEARLY not as talented as Roy in his prime, and you'd think this would be glaringly obvious to Floyd himself....

                Do you think Floyd actually thinks he is more talented than Roy, or is all the TBE talk just a marketing ploy and he knows deep down he's not as talented? I mean, there was an overlap where Floyd and Roy were both in their their prime at a certain point.... It's not like Roy is some mythical fighter of the past with no video footage.... I'm sure Floyd saw Roy fight in person many times

                In terms of fast, super slick boxers Roy and Floyd are maybe the top two fighters people think of... Yet Floyd almost never mentions Roy's name in interviews (in fact, I don't know if he EVER has)... Of course, Roy knows what's up and isn't afraid to talk about other fighters... But Floyd seems almost UNABLE to honestly rate himself against other great fighters...

                So is it all a marketing ploy or does Floyd believe his own hype?
                EGO is a funny thing………………………

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                  #28
                  Many on here only recall RJJ at the end of his career
                  Let’s face it , he hung around way to long
                  So unfortunately that’s what people recall

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                  • uppercut510
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                    #29
                    no idea why it bothers people that he thinks hes the best ever, its merely an opinion, who cares you have your opinions left him have his opinion, and yes hes a better overall fighter than roy jones was. both are greats tho

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                    • djtmal
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by darius45

                      So is it all a marketing ploy or does Floyd believe his own hype?
                      In the beginning it was a marketing ploy but you can't cherrypick as much as Floyd did and honestly dub yourself the best ever.

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