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  • PowerpuG
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    #41
    floyd would have won that fight regardless of size imo.. that said styles make fights and floyd is a bad style for jmm.. two counter punchers comes down to who does it better.. i think pac can give floyd the same problem zab judah did.. tho i still think floyd would adapt and beat pacquiao..

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    • Chunk..
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      #42
      Originally posted by mangler
      Everybody shoulda known the fight was a farce, and everybody shoulda known that wouldn't stop stans from gloatin. Who's really surprised?
      After a 2 year lay-off, to come back and perform like he did was something else. I don't give a **** who he was in the ring with.

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      • shade darkar
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        #43
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        And sane people fully admit that. But what Pac did to Oscar De La Hoya is far more impressive than what Mayweather just did to Marquez. There's actually a basis to be really impressed with what Pac did to DLH, there isn't much a basis to be impressed to the extent nuthuggers are acting like they are about Mayweather pot shotting a helplessly slow and weak Marquez.
        whats the basis to be more impressed with what pac did to de la hoya, then what mayweather did to marquez?

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        • PensionKiller
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          #44
          Originally posted by Real OG
          The same with DLH - Pac

          If Floyd fought that DLH he would have gatti'd him
          He would have beaten him, but Gatti'd? He didn't Gatti Marquez, but did Lacy him. Oscar has a top chin and Mayweather doesn't have great power as Manny imo. Also Floyd doesn't like to throw as many combos.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #45
            Originally posted by shade darkar
            whats the basis to be more impressed with what pac did to de la hoya, then what mayweather did to marquez?
            Pac made the same jump in weight, actually he made a bigger jump than what Marquez did, to fight a guy lots of people thought was too big and would KO him. It was basically the same situation as Mayweather-Marquez, except the little man kicked the crap out of the bigger man. Pac beat up DLH much worse than Marquez got beat up. Oscar was very weight drained which keeps it from being a tremendous victory but he was still the bigger man and still the favorite.

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              #46
              Originally posted by shade darkar
              whats the basis to be more impressed with what pac did to de la hoya, then what mayweather did to marquez?
              All the fighters are not the same is the first point.

              Oscar chose the fight and hassled Manny. Manny had to go up from 135. At that point he didn't fight anyone at 140 yet. Manny looked good vs Diaz, but Diaz aint exactly great. Infact he is average. Oscar looked okay VS forbes, but imo he would have destroyed him if he wasn't out of prime.

              Marquez fought twice at 135, and looked okay VS an old cassa, and was losing the fight vs Diaz until he got the KO. Floyd looked good VS Hatton, but has had a very long lay off and would have shown more rust VS a different type of fighter.

              Mayweather was always going to outsize Marquez, and also outclass. That was expected because Marquez was coming off. Marquez looked crap by losing every round which is good if you think Manny had 2 close fights, but Marquez wasn't the same.

              Manny was coming up and a lot felt Oscar was picking on him. He made him quit and didn't lose a round. That's more impressive even though it was clear Oscar was weight drained.

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              • SOPH~ REP.
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                Wake up Mayweather fans. You guys are acting like Floyd just beat Marquez worst than Pacquiao and are neglecting that JMM is clearly past his best and has shown signs of being past his best in his fights with Casa, Diaz, that fight just rubber stamped what some of us suspected for a while, he still a good fighter but he is not the fighter he was.

                Also Floyd was fighting a 36 year old Featherweight whom fought Pacuiao at his optimum weight or one his more optimum weights "super featherweight title " and Floyd came in like a full fledged Light middleweight.

                The weight clearly effected his speed and you could tell he looked a bit past it because his reflexes were poor, dont give me this BS about Maywather was making his reflexes look poor, he would of been making them look poor to a degree but not that bad, he was **** slow in that fight.

                I keep hearing people say he beat up a LW but Marquez is not a LW he was a Featherweight.
                That has zero too do with it ,Marquez is still a great fighter,you put him in vs a fighter thats ****s out an he will shine .Maywetaher is a defensive fighter vs everybody else brawler style Floyd will win all the time.Mayweather was not physical at all with Marquez he just got outclassed

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                  #48
                  I'm a huge JMM fan and wanted Mayweather to lose - badly.

                  But although JMM was a little slower, he didn't look any worse or past prime or whatever. He was just simply outclassed in there.

                  Sure the weight will have had an effect, but it would have been the same at any weight IMO.

                  Pac fans are just terrified now because they know Mayweather will most likely dominate another smaller guy in Pac.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by - JCHING -
                    I'm a huge JMM fan and wanted Mayweather to lose - badly.

                    But although JMM was a little slower, he didn't look any worse or past prime or whatever. He was just simply outclassed in there.

                    Sure the weight will have had an effect, but it would have been the same at any weight IMO.

                    Pac fans are just terrified now because they know Mayweather will most likely dominate another smaller guy in Pac.
                    So, the weight didn't matter against Marquez, that had nothing to do with the outcome, yet Pac fans are terrified because he is smaller than Floyd?

                    Contradiction much?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by - JCHING -
                      I'm a huge JMM fan and wanted Mayweather to lose - badly.

                      But although JMM was a little slower, he didn't look any worse or past prime or whatever. He was just simply outclassed in there.

                      Sure the weight will have had an effect, but it would have been the same at any weight IMO.

                      Pac fans are just terrified now because they know Mayweather will most likely dominate another smaller guy in Pac.
                      yes agree, Marquez looked good but vs Mayweather skill ,not many would

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