Mayweather-Marquez: The Post-Fight Report Card

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  • El_Cholo
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    #11
    Originally posted by tesla_power
    Great article. Although, i do hope Pac will answer those question at WW so we can have the megafight. Unorthodox defensive fighter against an unorthodex offensize fighter. Only difference is the muscle mass. Prior to the Marquez fight, I would have said the the difference between pac and pbf are not that huge. Now... Nah. PBF is bigger than PAC significantly.
    yeah the evidence was there to see as soon as the fight started.

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      #12
      Originally posted by tesla_power
      Great article. Although, i do hope Pac will answer those question at WW so we can have the megafight. Unorthodox defensive fighter against an unorthodex offensize fighter. Only difference is the muscle mass. Prior to the Marquez fight, I would have said the the difference between pac and pbf are not that huge. Now... Nah. PBF is bigger than PAC significantly.
      Well, re-assess your position after Pac defeated Cotto on Nov. 14, you might change your mind again...

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        #13
        Originally posted by leonthegee
        mosley is the most skilled fighter out there and has the best chance to beat floyd. so bring him on.

        Possibly, Mosley is the best if the fighting will be at Welterweight, no catchweight. JMM lost that small chance leverage to win when PBF had not intended to fight him at catchweight! Much more at fight night to where JMM could not afford to rehydrate weight and left behind by PBF who was most probably at Middleweight! Can you imagine, a JMM who struggles at 142lbs weight from his 135lbs best, against a natural Middleweight man??!!!

        JMM isn't no match to PBF because he did not carry his best at 142lbs, agaisnt a leaned middleweight fighter at his best!

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          #14
          Originally posted by MD_2008
          I thought Floyd would win by TKO in 5 or 6 rounds, so I guess I'm a little disappointed he took it to decision. Having said all that Floyd made me a few dollars so I'm happy. I'm just glad there was people who believed Marquez would win and put money on it.

          Even before this fight, I knew Floyd would beat Pacman if they ever fought, but after watching last night's fight, I'm 100% convinced he would beat him as bad or worse due to Pacman's offensive style. I'm one of the few who do not want to see Mayweather vs Pacman but I know it will make both boxers ALOT of money so be it. I would rather watch him beat up Mosley especially after what he did in the post fight interview. I thought it was funny but I bet Floyd didn't.

          I also think Floyd doesn't get props or the credit he so much desires or complains about in interviews because he doesn't challenge himself. What I mean by this is, he should have stopped Marquez, but didn't due to his known habit of not willing to take any risks. (that can be good or bad) I also think he can beat Cotto, Mosley, and Pacman because I believe he is just that more talented and smart. Of course he should fight them to prove it not just assume things, I would prefer he fight true WW as oppose to little guys.

          Also, if he is so great like he says and some of his biased fans proclaim (you know the ones pointing out only the people who went blindly with Marquez in this fight and not the reasonable ones who stated Marquez won't do anything to him and it will be a UD for Floyd) what is wrong with Floyd taking on REAL CHALLENGES before he RETIRES AGAIN? Maybe moving up in weight after beating either of these fighters Mosley, Cotto and Pacman. When he beats them who else can he fight at 147? Only other thing I think he can do is get another belt in his 6th weight division maybe a catch weight of 158??? After all his biased fans state weight doesnt matter as long as he has his skills, so be it, but honestly most fighters usually keep moving up challenging themselves further look at Pacman.
          If PBF knows how to honor agreed catchweight not using his money to insure his winnings, then I am not convince he could beat Pac! He should be in equal footing with Pac and let's see how good is he!

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            #15
            Originally posted by SceneSpectator!
            Well, re-assess your position after Pac defeated Cotto on Nov. 14, you might change your mind again...
            Pac fights against Marquez shows that he has problems with counterpunchers. Mayweather is bigger, faster and has more skill than Marquez. I have lost interest in even matching those two up. Reality sets in of weight, always thought if Pac could pull it out in the Cotto fight he would be one of the greatest. Now knowing that Cotto has been with bigger heavier handed WWs Pac has a very tall mountain to climb

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              #16
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              the best thing for the sport of boxing is if pac loses and floyd is forced to fight real WWs like Cotto and Mosley.
              It wouldn't be much difference if he fought those 2. His skill level is so much higher than anyone elses at WW. Shane has problems with boxers who don't stand directly in front of him and let him swing for the fences. Cotto doesnt have a plan B and certainly can't out think or outbox him. Even if he beats them; detractors like yourself will never be satisfied.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SceneSpectator!
                If PBF knows how to honor agreed catchweight not using his money to insure his winnings, then I am not convince he could beat Pac! He should be in equal footing with Pac and let's see how good is he!
                I think people get carried away with their dislike of certain fighters. Personally I don't believe that most top fighters are afraid to fight, they have all been doing this too long. I have nothing but respect for the heart and skill of JMM, PBF, SSM and most of the other cats out here. JMM did not really get over powered, he got out skilled. Even if they were exactly the same size, you are not going to win a fight connecting at that percentage, Floyd's defense was amazing. Combine that with the accuracy of the punches and this is where the fight was won. Mayweather says crazy things, but I don't let that get in the way of what I saw last Saturday. There was a very wide gap in skill level.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kocface
                  y wud he get a 6th title at a 158 lb catchweight, wen 1 division up is 154lbs???
                  He already won the WBC belt at 154 so he'd be goin for a full middleweight belt

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                    #19
                    I think the article was good !

                    Catchweights are fun but he's right there are no divisions and really garbage , for instance the killin we just saw, knew it would happen. The little mang really won, Mayweather won the fight but he really LOST , badly !!!!!

                    Mayweather is making a circus act out of boxing. Old timers would walk away from him, but Mayweather has a small following that reminds me of monkeys following the leader. When the leader says bow, they bow, when he says kiss my feet they kiss, when he cheats on weight , preplanned, to make the defeat more devastating to make him look better they are shouting YES YES YES , when he says he is the best on earth, they scream and defend by saying Yes your are !!!!! I wonder if the antichrist will have such a following ??? LOL !!!!!! This guy can do all the things that are wrong and he still has people wanting to kiss his feet , this is not good for boxing , it has become the monkey parade, a circus act, a wrestling act.

                    He says he is great , and won't fight WW's, forget Pac and Man up and take on the # 1 WW in the World and that is Mosley.

                    I am not a betting mang, but if I were I would bet May weighed between 155 and 160 on the night of the fight. I could not believe the size difference !!!!!!!!!! That was so sickening. Man o man , I am glad for Marquez though, he gained where Mayweather lost.

                    JMM gained reconition by have the guts to fight a huge fighter. JMM gained by not quitting , something that ROGER can never brag about, where May jr. cheated by not coming in on weight that would even up the fight more {yeah right} showing his cur heart , always trying for more advantage. His trainers knew the same , these are lies , they planned this terrible defeat making JMM the sacrifical Lamb !!!!!!!

                    LOL, Good for JMM though , he is loved as a boxer more than Mayweather because he has good character and is GAME plus he got , what , 600,000 dollars of May jrs money.

                    Will May jr ever be a superstar in the eyes of most , not until he cleans out the WW division and then takes risks of going two weight classes above and fights for Legacy like JMM tried and like Pacmang has DONE !!!!!!!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MD_2008
                      I thought Floyd would win by TKO in 5 or 6 rounds, so I guess I'm a little disappointed he took it to decision. Having said all that Floyd made me a few dollars so I'm happy. I'm just glad there was people who believed Marquez would win and put money on it.

                      Even before this fight, I knew Floyd would beat Pacman if they ever fought, but after watching last night's fight, I'm 100% convinced he would beat him as bad or worse due to Pacman's offensive style. I'm one of the few who do not want to see Mayweather vs Pacman but I know it will make both boxers ALOT of money so be it. I would rather watch him beat up Mosley especially after what he did in the post fight interview. I thought it was funny but I bet Floyd didn't.

                      I also think Floyd doesn't get props or the credit he so much desires or complains about in interviews because he doesn't challenge himself. What I mean by this is, he should have stopped Marquez, but didn't due to his known habit of not willing to take any risks. (that can be good or bad) I also think he can beat Cotto, Mosley, and Pacman because I believe he is just that more talented and smart. Of course he should fight them to prove it not just assume things, I would prefer he fight true WW as oppose to little guys.

                      Also, if he is so great like he says and some of his biased fans proclaim (you know the ones pointing out only the people who went blindly with Marquez in this fight and not the reasonable ones who stated Marquez won't do anything to him and it will be a UD for Floyd) what is wrong with Floyd taking on REAL CHALLENGES before he RETIRES AGAIN? Maybe moving up in weight after beating either of these fighters Mosley, Cotto and Pacman. When he beats them who else can he fight at 147? Only other thing I think he can do is get another belt in his 6th weight division maybe a catch weight of 158??? After all his biased fans state weight doesnt matter as long as he has his skills, so be it, but honestly most fighters usually keep moving up challenging themselves further look at Pacman.
                      At the weight and size Mayweather came in at against JMM , I dont think Pac can overcome that. Mays speed with that size is too much ,,,,,,,,,,BUT,,,,,,,,,

                      If a contract were drawn up saying there will be two weigh ins, one to come in at and another one hour before the fight and Roach was satisified with it , with severe penalties such as a forfeit stating lost of purse not a mere three hundred grand, cause we know now what Cheaterweather is gonna do, CHEAT !!!!! A lost of the total purse without having the fight to proceed , A lost that goes on the record books so ALL TIME HISTORY WILL SEE IT so Crackheadcheaterweather can't get by with it,,,,,,,,,THEN,,,,,,
                      I would give Pacmang a chance to KO the Fraud !!!!!!!!!

                      Whats to like about him outside of his skills ???????????

                      That answers the ****** hater question !!!!! It ain't about hating , thats ******, its about fighting men your own size and skill level, not picking on small guys. I grew despising Bullys , all they do is pick on small guys and brag.

                      Crackheadcheaterweather showed his cur ass when Mosley challenged him for a fight !!!!!! He showed exactly the way a bully acts, he smiles like a possum eating ****, brags on whipping the small guy , won't say one word about his cheating on weight, then won't look Mosley in the eye and keeps saying I am not scared hahahahahahahahahah if anything PROVED he was SCARED that did it, that was the best part of the fight. The look on jr.'s face compared to the look on Mosleys face TOLD THE STORY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      Mosley won the fight right there, it will never leave crackheadchickencheaterweathers MIND ,,,, NEVER !!!!!!!!! Mosley will Knock all the **** off his face, and he may QUIT before he gets KO'd and the reason I say this , if skill runs in the family , then so does QUITTING !!!!!! Roger Quit when Chavez made him QUIT , on his stool with his head hanging down.

                      YOU stay on the MONKEY PARADE !!! LOL

                      Sugar Shane Mosley is the ONLY WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION IN THE WORLD !!!!!!!!! ANYONE DON'T LIKE COME TAKE IT FROM HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS A FIGHT FANS FIGHTER !!!!!!!!!

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