Comments Thread For: Hearn Responds To Wilder About Joshua Deal: 'On What Planet Would You Not Even Ask What That Offer Is?'

[DClefthook]

Can someone explain why Wilder is no longer with Showtime?
Or you want me to start a thread for this...

What happened?

Sure no problemo. Wilder is with Pbc which is owned by Al Haymon. Pbc has deals with Fox and Showtime. Wilder is no different than any other fighter with Pbc in that they can toggle back and forth between the two networks. Pbc makes a schedule and whichever fight makes since for each network so be it. Lately it looks as though Showtime has been getting the majority of the fights while unfortunately it looks as Fox has settled into being the heavyweight PPV arm of the Pbc. As Trump would say ..."SAD". Hope that cleared it up for you pal!

[Sctrojan]

Can someone explain why Wilder is no longer with Showtime?
Or you want me to start a thread for this...

What happened?

The juice ain't worth the squeeze essentially. With Wilders huge gaurantee in Fury 1,they lost money along with a big portion of thier boxing budget for that year.

[greeneye99]

The biggest fight in boxing was the Fury Wilder Series and Mayweather vs Paul in the past 5 years. Hearn had zero to do with any of these.

You said the Fury vs Wilder series was the biggest boxing fight in the past 5 years right?
Lololololol
1.Please tell us the Arena/Stadiums that were sold out
2.The Ppv numbers that watched it and the amount of $$$ generated
I'll wait...........
This Post made me laugh out loud!!

[Boro]

Why are you online if you can’t read?

Are you slow or something you literally said "PBC doesn’t do business with DAZN, and DAZN didn’t want to do business with PBC until they blew through their warchest and are now in a perilous position." Eddie tried to deal with Wilder and PBC from Jump simpleton he didn't wait till the "warchest" ran low.

[DClefthook]

You said the Fury vs Wilder series was the biggest boxing fight in the past 5 years right?
Lololololol
1.Please tell us the Arena/Stadiums that were sold out
2.The Ppv numbers that watched it and the amount of $$$ generated
I'll wait...........
This Post made me laugh out loud!!

1. Fury/Wilder I 18k tickets sold and did an 18 million $ gate and about 400k ppv buys; Fury/Wilder II 850k Ppv buys and a 16 million $ gate; Fury/Wilder III 650k Ppv buys and did a 10.5 gate.....Canelo v Blow Job Saunders did 73k in attendance and only generated 9 mill at the gate and that wasn't on Ppv. Over the last 4 to 5 years the only other consistent Ppv fighters in the US besides Wilder has been Tank and Errol and always in the range of 300-450k PPv buys. The fact that Canelo broke the attendance record is what we call csoke and mirrors. Al and Bob know that to financially max out a Ppv event it needs to be inside, particularly NY-LA-Vegas, so you can charge premium prices and that's why you get Fury/Wilder I 18 mill gate and Canelo v Saunders 9 mill gate. Indoors you can make the cheapest seats still way to expensive for some people and those will be the ones you rely on to stay home and buy the Ppv. When you do a stadium event the cheap tickets are 45$ so those folks can go to the fight but you actually needed them to stay home and purchase the Ppv. The last four years Canelo has been an app fighter and not Ppv. And his only Ppv event on Dazn so far was an abysmal failure and his event coming up with 3G will probably flop as well because I'm not hearing ANYONE talk about this fight. So "Mr fanofreason's" original premise that the "Fury Wilder series was the biggest boxing fight (a.k.a PPV events) in the past 5 years" was actually spot on ol' chap! Hope I didn't make you WAIT to long. lol

[DClefthook]

Are you slow or something you literally said "PBC doesn’t do business with DAZN, and DAZN didn’t want to do business with PBC until they blew through their warchest and are now in a perilous position." Eddie tried to deal with Wilder and PBC from Jump simpleton he didn't wait till the "warchest" ran low.

And for the record when Eddie/Dazn first came over and stepped off The Mayflower they were not trying to "work" with the Pbc they were trying to take their fighters like Wilder, Tank, Charlos, Danny, Errol etc...

[Sctrojan]

And for the record when Eddie/Dazn first came over and stepped off The Mayflower they were not trying to "work" with the Pbc they were trying to take their fighters like Wilder, Tank, Charlos, Danny, Errol etc...

You mean like what Haymon/Schaefer ACTUALLY accomplished/did to Goldenboy fighters when PBC launched??

[Boro]

And for the record when Eddie/Dazn first came over and stepped off The Mayflower they were not trying to "work" with the Pbc they were trying to take their fighters like Wilder, Tank, Charlos, Danny, Errol etc...

Who the fúck cares what his intent was they would've all been making money together you simp, a slave to a different master is still a slave.

[Inspired]

Wilder, Finkle, Al haymon/pbc are the problem here and always have been. Wilder is an idiot though, he should have looked out for his own best interests not tried to please his owners.

[Sctrojan]

1. Fury/Wilder I 18k tickets sold and did an 18 million $ gate and about 400k ppv buys; Fury/Wilder II 850k Ppv buys and a 16 million $ gate; Fury/Wilder III 650k Ppv buys and did a 10.5 gate.....Canelo v Blow Job Saunders did 73k in attendance and only generated 9 mill at the gate and that wasn't on Ppv. Over the last 4 to 5 years the only other consistent Ppv fighters in the US besides Wilder has been Tank and Errol and always in the range of 300-450k PPv buys. The fact that Canelo broke the attendance record is what we call csoke and mirrors. Al and Bob know that to financially max out a Ppv event it needs to be inside, particularly NY-LA-Vegas, so you can charge premium prices and that's why you get Fury/Wilder I 18 mill gate and Canelo v Saunders 9 mill gate. Indoors you can make the cheapest seats still way to expensive for some people and those will be the ones you rely on to stay home and buy the Ppv. When you do a stadium event the cheap tickets are 45$ so those folks can go to the fight but you actually needed them to stay home and purchase the Ppv. The last four years Canelo has been an app fighter and not Ppv. And his only Ppv event on Dazn so far was an abysmal failure and his event coming up with 3G will probably flop as well because I'm not hearing ANYONE talk about this fight. So "Mr fanofreason's" original premise that the "Fury Wilder series was the biggest boxing fight (a.k.a PPV events) in the past 5 years" was actually spot on ol' chap! Hope I didn't make you WAIT to long. lol

And by all accounts and sources the events lost money for those involved since Furys and Wilders gaurantees totaled 50mil alone. That's precisely why Showtime decided to pass on the subsequent rematches,straight from the horses mouth in Espinoza. You do know Hearn was able to secure $180 million just in site fees ALONE for Joshua/Ruiz 2 and the 2 Usyks fight right??

So you in reality,which events turned out to be bigger and more successful?? Hearn/Dazn profits with Joshuas fights alone curb stomped what PBC and ESPN made with the Fury/Wilder trilogy.