Comments Thread For: Hearn Responds To Wilder About Joshua Deal: 'On What Planet Would You Not Even Ask What That Offer Is?'

[greeneye99]

My bad I forgot I have to clarify myself when I'm talking to you clowns. Full disclosure: I do not give a fuq about any PPV buys, ticket sales or stadiums or any boxing outside of The United States of America. In 2018 it was the "American takeover" now it's being changed to the "Dubai takeover". I hope those guys make as much money as possible over there but I don't care. I care about American sports only, I don't care about British boxing until they come here to fight. Idiots like you think that because AJ made 75 mill for his last fight was due to PPV sales from the UK. It's blood money being given out by the Mullahs to bring American and UK events to that region of the world to give them credibility. And yes I am a fan of Pbc, TR, Main events and GBP, you know the American promoters. You on the other hand protect Hearn at all cost like he was your rheetarted little brother. Eww!

Just Take your L Bro
Let me clarify
The Topic was Biggest Boxing Events in the last 5 year's Not in the USA
Read before you respond to my Post
I Post Facts
Anyone loooking at your last 20 post can see all you do is Protect Al Haymon & Everything PBC
I don't care how much $$ AJ makes
I just Watch my fav Sport whether it's in the Usa or UK
Funny thing is You say you don't care about British boxing until it's in the USA
But
You watch & Post comments on all the AJ fights not in the USA
Soo You do care
Lol
"We don't Believe You"

[Inspired]

No the problem is Dazn who came over here and completely blocked up the MW divisions and blocking GBP from their natural American fights at Showtime. But don't worry boys and girls because Dazn is down to probablytheir last Canelo fight then it's back over to Showtime for Redhead. And Wilder did loom out for his own best interest by not signing with Dazn because that 100 million dollar contract was just as real as that fake 365 mill contract they gave Canelo. AJ got beat down by Andy and the fight with Wilder would have probably never happened. Even John Skipper admitted that they approached Wilder very unprofessionally and he was right to not sign with them. But keep believing in your lil fairy tales. Oh shyte it's sunday night time for you to go watch your flying dragons show on Hbo.

I'm talking about the Wilder situation.

let's assume back when Finkle publically accepted that $15m offer, that they truely meant it and wanted the fight.
ok, so they conveniently took their sweet time when the contract was sent to them..and then eventually responded that 'it is not a real contract because joshuas name isnt on it' (signed by matchroom and 258 management). so then more time was wasted before they were sent the contract with aj's sig....and then lo and behold, Canelo vs GGG 2 was announced by mid september, 2 weeks before the proposed aj vs wilder, wembley date.

Here, Showtime/espinoza was certainly complicit. Assuming the situation was legit, they had that fight in the bag...
all wilder had to understand was the following

'we can no longer do aj vs wilder at wembley, because canelo vs ggg means aj vs wilder takes place in october. the only place that makes sense, is the Principality stadium, 80k under a closed roof.'
did wilder understand this? instead they came out full force 'no date no venue'.

Now why i blame al haymon is because honestly had these people truely wanted aj vs wilder back then, it would easily have happened. instead wilder's side put out far too much misinformation and contradictions. For example finkle was interviewed by dan rafael for espn, on that 50m offer. He literally said 'there's no rematch clause if aj loses, it's when and where wilder wants' (no date no venue etc). Yet they're mad at aj because his offer didnt have a date or venue, when they were being forced to move the fight to october, due to canelo vs ggg clashing? (by that i mean, showtime couldnt do 2 major ppv's within 2 weeks).

then after they made the fury vs wilder fight, frankw arren and dinkle started dissing aj, with warren saying 'i saw the contract and it was guaranteed 80m for 2 fights, would have been on bt sports'
thing is aj was also very clear in his interview before (the 50m one) that his contractual obligations had to be taken care of too 'as long as my contractual obligations are taken care of..'

have you ever seen a situation where one side is absolutely bending the truth on everything?
Wilder also stepped up by saying 'they promised this big castle in yookay england, that wembley castle..and then they said 'no, we cant do that anymore' and yet later they went and did povetkin fight there, they'reliars'

wilder said this..and the thing is, obv aj could do the povetkin fight at wembley because it wasnt a ppv on showtime and thus no longer clashing with canelo vs ggg 2. ..


as for the dazn deal, mate...wilder was going on about how dazn will sideline eddie hearn and get with pbc/al haymon. that's where that fallout stemmed from. why do you think al haymon went there? they really thought 'yup, we go in, we get the big deal via lou dibella (helps that he is a j3w too, even bob arum was angling for this).
had wilder signed that deal though, i dont think aj would have fought ruiz.
you seem to think that ruiz was a cherry pick. what he was, was a guy who in a 2014 documentary, aj mentioned as a threat..and benga added 'dangerman'. they gave ruiz that much even back then. ruiz also has no class at all.

[Sctrojan]

Well if the owner of GBP wasn't preoccupied abusing alcohol and *******, in and out of rehab (couldnt even make the Canelo/3G fight) and wasn't taking pictures in drag and also cheating on his wife in hotels while letting hookers stick kitchen utensils up his rear end then maybe he wouldn't have lost all those fighters. WAYYYYY to easy my man please don't ever use that argument as analogy ever again.

Wtf does any of that have to do with Haymon poaching GB fighters? He's a savior who "rescued" them from the big bad meanie Oscar now lol? It's ok,it's WAYYYYY to easy to see your hypocrisy concerning Haymon with that response.

[Boro]

Yes you're right AJ has made more money in his last four fights, one where he got knocked out by Andy and two more where he got dogg-walked by Usyk. So if that's what you're bragging over then I think that sums up British boxing to a tee. And you're going to brag about AJ making more scratch than the Pbc boys, that's cool and you may be right. But I would retort that Floyd PPVweather has generated more revenue in his career than they entire history of British boxing.. Doesn't even come close! hahaha fuqing loser

This whole "conversation" started between us because you implied - "PBC doesn’t do business with DAZN, and DAZN didn’t want to do business with PBC until they blew through their warchest and are now in a perilous position."

So it starts with a lie because you dislike Eddie? you then go on about purses weirdly and now you're waffling on about nationality? are you sure you're a boxing fan...

Because personally I couldn't careless about nationalities period, it's completely irrelevant, who cares about where someone claims they're from, it's a fight it's the least relevant thing and why am I watching another mans pockets, he ain't paying my bills... but for some reason you weird alleged fans get stuck on retárded things.

As for Floyd no one cares about Floyd he isn't an active fighter, why would you bring him up we're talking about active fighters but obviously you have to attempt to get some kind of win.

[elfag]

Hearn full of it


Aug 17 - Wilder announces hes fighting Helenius in October

Aug 20 - AJ looses to Usyk for the second time.

Sep 4 - Hearn states he was reaching out to Wilder to make AJ-wilder and was ignored..... WHEN was this? in the weeks leading up to Usyk II? lmao


Hearn did the same thing before. Also did a big thing trying to make it look like AJ wanted to fight Fury when they knew Fury was contractually obligated to Wilder 3 and then when Fury had to make that fight or pay Wilder like 100 million then they claimed Fury ducked them.

lol ok hearn mad his champ and golden goose lost to a cruiserweight twice

[Boro]

Hearn full of it


Aug 17 - Wilder announces hes fighting Helenius in October

Aug 20 - AJ looses to Usyk for the second time.

Sep 4 - Hearn states he was reaching out to Wilder to make AJ-wilder and was ignored..... WHEN was this? in the weeks leading up to Usyk II? lmao

Before the Usyk fight Wilder was obviously the backup dancer, assuming he (AJ) loses... there is no reason to reach out to his team otherwise, Fury vs Joshua would be much bigger if Josh won.

[DClefthook]

I'm talking about the Wilder situation.

let's assume back when Finkle publically accepted that $15m offer, that they truely meant it and wanted the fight.
ok, so they conveniently took their sweet time when the contract was sent to them..and then eventually responded that 'it is not a real contract because joshuas name isnt on it' (signed by matchroom and 258 management). so then more time was wasted before they were sent the contract with aj's sig....and then lo and behold, Canelo vs GGG 2 was announced by mid september, 2 weeks before the proposed aj vs wilder, wembley date.

Here, Showtime/espinoza was certainly complicit. Assuming the situation was legit, they had that fight in the bag...
all wilder had to understand was the following

'we can no longer do aj vs wilder at wembley, because canelo vs ggg means aj vs wilder takes place in october. the only place that makes sense, is the Principality stadium, 80k under a closed roof.'
did wilder understand this? instead they came out full force 'no date no venue'.

Now why i blame al haymon is because honestly had these people truely wanted aj vs wilder back then, it would easily have happened. instead wilder's side put out far too much misinformation and contradictions. For example finkle was interviewed by dan rafael for espn, on that 50m offer. He literally said 'there's no rematch clause if aj loses, it's when and where wilder wants' (no date no venue etc). Yet they're mad at aj because his offer didnt have a date or venue, when they were being forced to move the fight to october, due to canelo vs ggg clashing? (by that i mean, showtime couldnt do 2 major ppv's within 2 weeks).

then after they made the fury vs wilder fight, frankw arren and dinkle started dissing aj, with warren saying 'i saw the contract and it was guaranteed 80m for 2 fights, would have been on bt sports'
thing is aj was also very clear in his interview before (the 50m one) that his contractual obligations had to be taken care of too 'as long as my contractual obligations are taken care of..'

have you ever seen a situation where one side is absolutely bending the truth on everything?
Wilder also stepped up by saying 'they promised this big castle in yookay england, that wembley castle..and then they said 'no, we cant do that anymore' and yet later they went and did povetkin fight there, they'reliars'

wilder said this..and the thing is, obv aj could do the povetkin fight at wembley because it wasnt a ppv on showtime and thus no longer clashing with canelo vs ggg 2. ..


as for the dazn deal, mate...wilder was going on about how dazn will sideline eddie hearn and get with pbc/al haymon. that's where that fallout stemmed from. why do you think al haymon went there? they really thought 'yup, we go in, we get the big deal via lou dibella (helps that he is a j3w too, even bob arum was angling for this).
had wilder signed that deal though, i dont think aj would have fought ruiz.
you seem to think that ruiz was a cherry pick. what he was, was a guy who in a 2014 documentary, aj mentioned as a threat..and benga added 'dangerman'. they gave ruiz that much even back then. ruiz also has no class at all.

hold on inspired let me go make a drink first before I read this gotdamn book you just wrote...

[DClefthook]

I'm talking about the Wilder situation.

let's assume back when Finkle publically accepted that $15m offer, that they truely meant it and wanted the fight.
ok, so they conveniently took their sweet time when the contract was sent to them..and then eventually responded that 'it is not a real contract because joshuas name isnt on it' (signed by matchroom and 258 management). so then more time was wasted before they were sent the contract with aj's sig....and then lo and behold, Canelo vs GGG 2 was announced by mid september, 2 weeks before the proposed aj vs wilder, wembley date.

Here, Showtime/espinoza was certainly complicit. Assuming the situation was legit, they had that fight in the bag...
all wilder had to understand was the following

'we can no longer do aj vs wilder at wembley, because canelo vs ggg means aj vs wilder takes place in october. the only place that makes sense, is the Principality stadium, 80k under a closed roof.'
did wilder understand this? instead they came out full force 'no date no venue'.

Now why i blame al haymon is because honestly had these people truely wanted aj vs wilder back then, it would easily have happened. instead wilder's side put out far too much misinformation and contradictions. For example finkle was interviewed by dan rafael for espn, on that 50m offer. He literally said 'there's no rematch clause if aj loses, it's when and where wilder wants' (no date no venue etc). Yet they're mad at aj because his offer didnt have a date or venue, when they were being forced to move the fight to october, due to canelo vs ggg clashing? (by that i mean, showtime couldnt do 2 major ppv's within 2 weeks).

then after they made the fury vs wilder fight, frankw arren and dinkle started dissing aj, with warren saying 'i saw the contract and it was guaranteed 80m for 2 fights, would have been on bt sports'
thing is aj was also very clear in his interview before (the 50m one) that his contractual obligations had to be taken care of too 'as long as my contractual obligations are taken care of..'

have you ever seen a situation where one side is absolutely bending the truth on everything?
Wilder also stepped up by saying 'they promised this big castle in yookay england, that wembley castle..and then they said 'no, we cant do that anymore' and yet later they went and did povetkin fight there, they'reliars'

wilder said this..and the thing is, obv aj could do the povetkin fight at wembley because it wasnt a ppv on showtime and thus no longer clashing with canelo vs ggg 2. ..


as for the dazn deal, mate...wilder was going on about how dazn will sideline eddie hearn and get with pbc/al haymon. that's where that fallout stemmed from. why do you think al haymon went there? they really thought 'yup, we go in, we get the big deal via lou dibella (helps that he is a j3w too, even bob arum was angling for this).
had wilder signed that deal though, i dont think aj would have fought ruiz.
you seem to think that ruiz was a cherry pick. what he was, was a guy who in a 2014 documentary, aj mentioned as a threat..and benga added 'dangerman'. they gave ruiz that much even back then. ruiz also has no class at all.

I'll tell you what Mr Inspired you make a very granular argument to support your opinion. You had me at hello but you lost me at the end. You made poignant claims about the behind the scenes details of making the AJ-Wilder fight. Some I agree with, some you enlightened me on and a few I disagree with. If I were a fan of Hearn/Dazn succeeding in the US then I would cling on to this post for dear life. You seem as if you're someone that can hold a civilized conversation with,even if we disagree and then shake hands at the end. Where you lost me was the last paragraph where you clearly come across as a British boxing fan who clearly is bias for Hearn and I come across as an American boxing fan who clearly has a bias for the American promoters. But good shyte though...don't worry I don't have any azzhole remarks to make...I'm going to save that for this other idiot...

[Fact]

The only clear point is that both Hearn and Haymon are egotistical maniacs who will harm their fighters best interests to satisfy their ego.

[Boro]

The only clear point is that both Hearn and Haymon are egotistical maniacs who will harm their fighters best interests to satisfy their ego.

Arguably the most accurate thing said in this thread thus far but sadly people are fans of promoters and men rather than the sports itself now...