Comments Thread For: Hearn Responds To Wilder About Joshua Deal: 'On What Planet Would You Not Even Ask What That Offer Is?'

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  • Neverflysolo
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    #31
    Hearn doesn’t have any heavy’s anymore and Hearn is distraught over the fact that he blew the Furry vs ‘WAR’ Chisora fight, and can’t get THIS payday. Top Rank and PBC run it now

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    • QballLobo
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      #32
      In 2018 DAZN was throwing crazy money around to show they were a real player in the US.
      Getting the US rights to Joshua, plus the Canelo and GGG deals quickly after HBO got out of boxing.
      So I definitely believe they would pony up big money to do a Wilder/AJ fight. $100 million for a multi fight deal with one of them being a heavyweight unification isn’t that crazy for the deals they were making.
      As far as a recent offer, if Hearn made a call to talk about a deal and Wilder’s representation didn’t at least tell him or listen that’s a derelict of duty as a promoter or manager.

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      • ShoulderRoll
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        #33
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg

        Americans don’t care about eggington vs cheeseman type fights in places like Bootle. They just don’t.
        Can't argue with that.

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        • Sctrojan
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          #34
          Originally posted by FLY TY

          If he's content with his 2M dollar purses, what's it to you and Hearn? We know you for damn sure ain't getting paid 2M for anything.

          When this fight was possibly one of the biggest fights in history, one guy was calling people Shirley Winkle, and offering 12M flat fees...now that AJ has lost 3x Hearn is ready to make the fight when it's meaningless?

          It's like the girl in high school who wouldn't give you the time of day, fast forward 10 years, and she's a fat, single mother, with 3 kids, and wants to take you out on a date....

          Wilder is content with his career at this point, and his 2M purses, and is not interested in an Anthony Joshua fight because it doesn't mean anything anymore.

          Hearn should be more concerned with helping Joshua find a trainer who can teach him to use his jab consistently. Wilder and Finkel clearly have lost all respect for Hearn a long time ago. Some of you UK guys are just plain weird.
          Wrong.

          When it would've been the biggest fight in boxing ,Wikder/Finkel/Haymon turned down 2 offers from DAZN...3fight/$100mil and a 4fight/$120mil deal.

          Even after his 2 loses to Usyk,Joshua is STILL the biggest cashcow in boxing so no,Joshua isn't the overweight prom queen,quite the opposite. But like another poster mentioned Wilder has never wanted that work from Joshua and remarks like Wilder suggest that. Don't know how anyone can interpret it any other way....nevermind.

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          • Fanofreason
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxviewer

            And yet the biggest fights in last 5 years are made by him. This is a plain example that hatred really makes people completely dense.
            The biggest fight in boxing was the Fury Wilder Series and Mayweather vs Paul in the past 5 years. Hearn had zero to do with any of these.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Sctrojan

              Wrong.

              When it would've been the biggest fight in boxing ,Wikder/Finkel/Haymon turned down 2 offers from DAZN...3fight/$100mil and a 4fight/$120mil deal.

              Even after his 2 loses to Usyk,Joshua is STILL the biggest cashcow in boxing so no,Joshua isn't the overweight prom queen,quite the opposite. But like another poster mentioned Wilder has never wanted that work from Joshua and remarks like Wilder suggest that. Don't know how anyone can interpret it any other way....nevermind.
              Joshua said if they gave him $50 million he would fight tomorrow. They did offer him that but he went back on his word.

              As for 3- and 4-fight offers that kind of thing was totally unnecessary. Wilder shouldn't have been expected to tie himself down to Hearn for so long just to get a Joshua fight.

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              • sicko
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                #37
                "Just A Guy From Alabama" comment is something that Wilder will NEVER forget and I don't blame him especially when it comes from someone who grew up with a F^cking Silver Spoon

                That being said if you're Wilder, sweetest revenge would be to Knock AJ TF out while Edward is Ring Side. I do think something can be worked out to finally deliver that fight which is STILL probably the Biggest and most Lucrative Fight in Boxing IMO

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                • Sctrojan
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  Joshua said if they gave him $50 million he would fight tomorrow. They did offer him that but he went back on his word.

                  As for 3- and 4-fight offers that kind of thing was totally unnecessary. Wilder shouldn't have been expected to tie himself down to Hearn for so long just to get a Joshua fight.
                  That "offer" was nothing more than a PR move. The terms of that offer were Wilder was to have 100% control of the promotion and 100% ownership of the show. It also stipulated that Joshua had to accept the offer in 24hrs or it would self detonate. Who in thier right mind expects anyones legal team/advisors/lawyers to sign an "offer" like that in 24hrs?? Lastly the "50mil" was never accounted for or put into escrow. So that was Wilders "offer"....

                  DAZN(Skipper)actually brought Wilder into thier headquarters,had discussions and presented Wilder the offer,in person. Surely you can see the difference in legitimacy between the 2 said offers?

                  As far as the length of contracts,when you're offering a fighter,Wilder in this case,100 fold his previous purses,it's not out of the norm to expect some form of commitment on thier part. Wilder turned it down,end of. He's never wanted that fight. Shiet,Lou DiBella got ****canned for even setting up the meeting between DAZN and Wilder ffs. That's how much Wilder really wanted that fight lol.
                  Last edited by Sctrojan; 09-04-2022, 02:24 PM.

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                  • harry-greb
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by thack
                    It's as plain as day and Hearn knows it. When Wilder was WBC champion Hearn offered him $15m of a pot of at least $100m which equals 15% at best with the other 85% going to himself and Joshua(lol) Even a mandatory without a title normallyWilder and gets 25%!.Prior to this Joshua made the statement that if they offered him $50m 'he would sign tomorrow" they did and he didn't! even with the money assured (which Hearn admitted to)! ....... Joshua has some domestic battles on the cards but is out of the real picture and Wilder is right Hearn thought that Joshua would lose again as did most and wanted some kind of insurance policy as Wilder is number one WBC contender.Edward should listen to his own dad who back in the days before the Ritz demolition job on Joshua he let slip' if Joshua doesn't fight Wilder for the next ten years , I'D TAKE THAT!.

                    Wilder and Finkell have been messed about enough by idiot Eddie and are in no rush to do him and his robot any favours.
                    A couple of points.
                    Firstly, as far as I know the 15 million was 7 or 8 times wilder highest purse.
                    Secondly, I think finkel accepted the offer but there was confusion over dates and venues and povevetkins team were putting pressure on to get thir shot.
                    Thirdly, you can't say there was a hundred million in the pot. Nobody knows that.

                    On the 50 million offer, hearn asked to see a contract drawn up but finkel refused, saying u have to accept the deal first. Now, I don't know about u. But I ain't accepting **** until I see the terms and conditions no matter how good the offer. That's all Hearn was asking for. Is that not a reasonable request??
                    I notice u didn't mention the 100 million Dazn offer that team wilder turned down.
                    It works both. Then he goes and loses to fury 2 or 3 times for half that amount

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                    • rickJen
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                      #40
                      Can someone explain why Wilder is no longer with Showtime?
                      Or you want me to start a thread for this...

                      What happened?

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