Comments Thread For: Wilder On Joshua's Performance Against Usyk: 'You Can Tell He Wasn't Himself'

[hhh1200]

I disagree. Deontay Wilder had at least 5 voluntary defenses of his World WBC heavyweight title and those opponents were all either avoided or undefeated like Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury.

Now when comparing that to Anthony Joshua's championship reign; He had only one voluntary defense of his World heavyweight titles and all the rest were mandatories challengers.

Which means that Wilder took more risks outside of the ring than Anthony Joshua did. So your narrative about Wilder being bottle-fed is completely false.

Finkle called him a baby at 33-0 when an undisputed fight vs Vlad could happen. Rumors Vlad flattens him in the gym a couple of times.

Fury is a cherry-pick gone completely wrong. They were after his lineal to leverage against Joshua, and always said they turned down Joshua. If they knew Fury was real and not the fool he portrays himself (wolf ticket sellers) they would have taken the 120 million from AJ.

Ortiz really only has Jennings on his resume before Wilder. Talk about LDBC hyped-up bogeyman. Build him up, turn down a 7 million AJ offer and let Wilder knock him out 2 times to build a profile. Almost didn't make it in the ring one fight b/c of his blood pressure. Anyway, can fix all of his vs Ruiz. I suspect Ruiz might stop him. Look at his past. He is a decorated Cuban like Rigodeaux or Gamboa. Lara was a World Champion.

Wilder was spoon-fed.

But the nie thing about the heavyweight division, the course of the division can change with one punch except for the pitty-pat lomachenko Ukrainian.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Joshua is just not good enough to beat Usyk, neither is Wilder.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I have watched back the fight. And I think this fall-out is very dramatic.

Joshua went 12 rounds with Usyk, and was beaten on points. Out of the two fighters, Joshua hurt Usyk the most.

Joshua's lack of Jab, inside game and ability to fight a good big man styled fight. Lost him the fight.

His effort was satisfactory. But I don't think he entirely left it all in the ring. Still a very good effort, against a top level fighter at his peak in Usyk.

Joshua was not knocked out or beaten up.

[hugh grant]

Joshua is just not good enough to beat Usyk, neither is Wilder.

I think usy k would beat wilder badly just like fury did. I mean a 3rd fight between Josh v usyk, you wonder if Josh could improve more?

[KingGilgamesh]

A big stiff robot and yet the most accurate boxer, Usyk, couldn't land up to 70% of his total punches on him. There's a reason why Wilder couldn't be placated with 120m dollars to fight AJ.

He's not. Pretty sure compubox accuracy ratings have Joshua in the 30s/40s.

[PRINCEKOOL]

All these people still celebrating like this is the complete demise of Joshua.

Joshua is probably still going to out last Fury & Uysk, and will still be involved in big fights.

This game changes from fight to fight, and it is really hard to judge how fighters and styles will look once in the ring together.

Usyk is a top fighter, at his peak. Anthony Joshua lost, big deal.

The heavyweight division is not full of fighters at the level of Usyk, or Fury etc.

Joshua has be exposed to a certain level of the game. The level where nobody cares if he is a super heavyweight.

The level where he needed a Jab, and all around boxing skills. He will know that, and he will have to obsessively work on it.

No idea where this next chapter leads in his career, but it is not the complete demise. Joshua is a contender now.

[cally93]

The delusion of the Wilder fanboys continues, the guy literally projects his own career onto Joshua and you man lap it up!

The most protected heavyweight of all time! Period.

His own manager calls him a ‘baby’ at 33-0 and that’s why he didn’t fight Wlad, or make no attempt to ever unify. Turns down career high paydays because well you know why.

https://www.boxingscene.com/amp/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

I’m sure you fools will have some miraculous excuse tho….

[champion4ever]

Dawg AJ and Fury were going to unify but Wilder was delusional and thought he could beat Fury in the third fight thus ruining unification. So yes AJ was going to fight Fury.

Why are you talking about Canelo? Get your head out of Wilder's ass man.

Well then Wilder fought a cherry pick three fucking times. Also, if Joshua really wanted to fight Fury badly enough then he would have relinquished his WBO title to Usyk; A man that he cannot defeat.

[SteelHammer947]

Just name me one fighter on Joshua’s resume who was better than Tyson Fury. Thank you very much! I rest my case. AJ never fought Wilder or Fury but he gets points for beating only his mandatories? Got’cha!

I like Wilder a lot more than AJ, and i would bet money on him beating AJ, but if you really want to go down the "who has a better resume" path, Usyk - Fury are on the same level as of now in my opinion. Both elite guys. Besides that, AJ has faced overall tougher opposition compared to Wilder.

AJ - Usyk, Klitschko, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Parker for his top opponents.

Wilder - Fury, Ortiz, Arreola, Steverne, Breezale, Washington for his top opponents.

[champion4ever]

Finkle called him a baby at 33-0 when an undisputed fight vs Vlad could happen. Rumors Vlad flattens him in the gym a couple of times.

Fury is a cherry-pick gone completely wrong. They were after his lineal to leverage against Joshua, and always said they turned down Joshua. If they knew Fury was real and not the fool he portrays himself (wolf ticket sellers) they would have taken the 120 million from AJ.

Ortiz really only has Jennings on his resume before Wilder. Talk about LDBC hyped-up bogeyman. Build him up, turn down a 7 million AJ offer and let Wilder knock him out 2 times to build a profile. Almost didn't make it in the ring one fight b/c of his blood pressure. Anyway, can fix all of his vs Ruiz. I suspect Ruiz might stop him. Look at his past. He is a decorated Cuban like Rigodeaux or Gamboa. Lara was a World Champion.

Wilder was spoon-fed.

But the nie thing about the heavyweight division, the course of the division can change with one punch except for the pitty-pat lomachenko Ukrainian.

By 2016 there was a changing of the guard in the Heavyweight division. Wilder, Fury and Joshua were all champions by then.

Moreover, this cherry picking, lying nonsense is so de****able. and you know it. The fact is Wilder only challenged Fury because the AJ talks had fallen through.

Team Joshua hid behind his WBA mandatory challenge in order to duck the fight and that is fact, proof, truth and history.

Fury was a fight that Wilder never wanted. He took it on the rebound as a gift to boxing fans and after he was rejected by AJ.

Fury contacted him. Not once did he ever call out Tyson Fury. That is what cherry pickers do. So enough of this so called cherry-picking bullshit!

Cherrypick my ass! At least he fought the son of a bitch
Not once but three times. Wider never ran from asswhoopings but Joshua have.

He ducked both Ortiz, Wilder and Fury by hiding behind his mandatories and yet still got his asswhooped twice in a row by a much smaller man