Comments Thread For: Wilder On Joshua's Performance Against Usyk: 'You Can Tell He Wasn't Himself'

[TMLT87]

“Like I’ve always said, they’ve given him everything"

Says the guy who didnt have to fight a top 5 level opponent until he was 39-0 and on his 7th title defence.....

[Slowhand]

Very occasionally, you’ll hear an incisive analysis of big fights from people within boxing.

This isn’t one of those occasions, and actually, they’re becoming fewer and further between.

Have yet to hear any so-called expert methodically state how they would go about dismantling Usyk.

I suspect some high-level coaches know the answer, but everyone we’ve heard so far has had nothing interesting to say other than, you need to rush him.

In fact, the best insights have come from knowledgable people on this forum, which is troubling since posting here doesn’t pay like punditry or training.

I´ll try again: the fact is Usyk has the best engine and foot work in the division, so try to slow down the pace. Don´t chase him, plant your feet and hit him hard coming in. And then.. errr.. I don´t know. AJ hit him pretty hard, body and head. One thing tho: seems that for some reason Usyk eats some looping hooks but slips most straight punches. Perhaps set a trap so silly he can´t read it and runs into a huge haymaker?

[Pac=Duran]

word on the street is that Robert Garcia drugged him.

[bullydean]

I disagree. Deontay Wilder had at least 5 voluntary defenses of his World WBC heavyweight title and those opponents were all either avoided or undefeated like Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury.

Now when comparing that to Anthony Joshua's championship reign; He had only one voluntary defense of his World heavyweight titles and all the rest were mandatories challengers.

Which means that Wilder took more risks outside of the ring than Anthony Joshua did. So your narrative about Wilder being bottle-fed is completely false.

Wilder never fought avoided fighters. Wilder did "voluntary defenses" so he wouldn't have to fight highly ranked contenders in mandatory fights.

Ortiz was never a boogeyman. The guy is old and hasn't beat any notable opposition. His first real opponent is this year against Andy.

Tyson Fury is a self admitted cherry pick by Wilder gone wrong. "I made you famous by giving you a shot at the title when you were fat, retired, snorting coke, and mentally unwell".
Fury was also never "avoided" in this era. Fury became the champ and then retired. When he came back AJ and Fury were set to fight before Wilder ruined the unification fight.

[Bob]

People gotta stop saying the big spoilt bratt did better fight 2.
Generally everyone agrees Usyk won the 1st fight 8-4 7-5.
Generally everyone agrees Usyk won the 2nd fight 8-4 7-5.
Am i missing something??

Wilder, pot kettle mate when it comes to cherries.

[Jeff Da Maori]

I disagree. Deontay Wilder had at least 5 voluntary defenses of his World WBC heavyweight title and those opponents were all either avoided or undefeated like Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury.

Now when comparing that to Anthony Joshua's championship reign; He had only one voluntary defense of his World heavyweight titles and all the rest were mandatories challengers.

Which means that Wilder took more risks outside of the ring than Anthony Joshua did. So your narrative about Wilder being bottle-fed is completely false.

Wilder didn't fight a single ranked fighter before he got a title shot. He was as bottle fed as it gets.

[P to the J]

I´ll try again: the fact is Usyk has the best engine and foot work in the division, so try to slow down the pace. Don´t chase him, plant your feet and hit him hard coming in. And then.. errr.. I don´t know. AJ hit him pretty hard, body and head. One thing tho: seems that for some reason Usyk eats some looping hooks but slips most straight punches. Perhaps set a trap so silly he can´t read it and runs into a huge haymaker?

As someone else round here said pre-fight, this is more or less what Teo Lopez was doing to Loma till round 7, though ofc, Loma wasn’t moving his feet anywhere near as well in this one post-shoulder surgery.

I don’t know, I’m no boxer, but I like what you’re saying

[Liondw]

I think Joshua boxes better than Wilder, but if Wilder caught him with a big right hand, that could be night night.

If Usyk had a bit more punching power and perhaps went after AJ a bit more in that tenth round, he would've ko'd Joshua. Wouldn't mind seeing AJ vs Wilder.

[GhostofDempsey]

Wasn't himself? Or maybe this is the real Joshua and we are seeing what he is made of when he loses, much like Wilder himself.

[chicken-]

How can Wilder say Joshua was giving everything when he has the best resume in the heavy weight division? When ever Wilder opens his mouth you just know it's garbage ️ he would spill out. Wilder refused to fight Klitschko and White but Joshua fought the both and beat them.

Easily, we've seen Wilder beaten half to death twice and he never gives up, and has knocked down the best in the division 4 times while people that you probably would've rated higher than Wilder like Dillian Whyte get knocked out cold in 1 punch without even putting up minimal effort. AJ on the other hand is content in smiling to himself in his corner as he's waved off and if he's too tired he just stops throwing punches. Wilder is bleeding out of every orifice and exhausted and still throwing punches, he can say whatever the hell he wants about biting down in tough fights...he earned that right if nothing else.

Wilder KOs Joshua, easily. I think Hearn will feed him up to Wilder assuming Wilder doesn't lose before then for one last big pay day.