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  • Boxing-1013
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    #21
    Originally posted by Hustle

    Jermell was 8 years and 2 divisions ago. And it was for a 400k purse. Lets not make that fight out to be some mega event. It wasnt even scheduled to be the main event.
    But its a fact that he did pull out of the fight and he's never recovered.

    But since then we clearly seen the whole 160 duck him. Golovkin, Canelo, Jermall, Munguia, Billy Joe. And 4 of them were on his side of the street.

    I don't feel sorry for him. I'm just tired of people ignoring the facts. The facts show that he's been ducked.

    Roy jones spoke truth
    You can claim he's been ducked, but he's also done his share of ducking.

    Here is the article on Derevy as one guy mentioned.

    There was almost a second meaningful middleweight fight made for December 16. Keith Connolly, Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s manager, told BoxingScene.com that the unbeaten middleweight agreed to face Demetrius Andrade on the Billy Joe Saunders-David Lemieux undercard December 16 in Laval, Quebec. The deal was almost finalized, but Andrade withdrew from negotiations because the undefeated contender didn’t think he had enough time to prepare for such a difficult fight against Derevyanchenko (11-0, 9 KOs).


    And even if you say 7 weeks wasn't enough, why not fight him early the following year? Derevy has shown he will fight anyone.

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    • Shadoww702
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      #22
      Originally posted by Hustle

      Billy joe Saunders failed a drug test the week of the fight

      Jaime munguia declined a mandatory fight

      Jermall turned down 7 million for a unification


      These things actually happened remember?
      He also ducked the other Charlo, Sergey, Lara.

      Also had to hold on for dear life when Liam Williams almost had him out...

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        #23
        Originally posted by Boxing-1013

        Andrade also has a history of avoiding Lara, and Jermell. So the storyline that he is doing anything he can to get the big fights doesn't resonate with me.

        He is doing what almost every other fighter is doing - taking on as little risk as possible and trying to get paid as much as possible.

        Having a belt and being featured on TV isn't relevant either. It's about money.

        I think it's clear Andrade could have done a lot more to get himself in position for the big fights. But he didn't want to take those risks, and that's fine too. But I'm not going to feel sorry for the guy in that regard. He has himself to blame, a lot.
        He said he wanted Lara then said "Nope only as a last resort"

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        • maguirre
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          #24
          Makes my blood boil even more when I see this Andrade also ducked Lara nonsense when in fact it was the exact opposite. Andrade became in fact mandatory to Lara's belt and for some unknown reason nothing was offered to Andrade from the Lara camp. Lara and Decubas with the possible WBA collusion, instead fought Gausha, a complete nobody at that time.

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            #25
            All he does is fight pigeons. He doesn’t even try to fight tuff. He has fight guys who are WELL KNOWN very good fighters. He can’t make Canelo or anyone else money by fighting nobodies and EXPECT to get paid like he matters.
            Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 08-24-2022, 01:58 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013

              You can claim he's been ducked, but he's also done his share of ducking.

              Here is the article on Derevy as one guy mentioned.

              There was almost a second meaningful middleweight fight made for December 16. Keith Connolly, Sergiy Derevyanchenko’s manager, told BoxingScene.com that the unbeaten middleweight agreed to face Demetrius Andrade on the Billy Joe Saunders-David Lemieux undercard December 16 in Laval, Quebec. The deal was almost finalized, but Andrade withdrew from negotiations because the undefeated contender didn’t think he had enough time to prepare for such a difficult fight against Derevyanchenko (11-0, 9 KOs).


              And even if you say 7 weeks wasn't enough, why not fight him early the following year? Derevy has shown he will fight anyone.
              Wo0f...

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                #27
                Originally posted by War Room

                Wo0f...

                Did you watch that video?

                Rozier says that Derevy is too high risk and low reward for Andrade. That's why the fight didn't happen. Dunked on yourself.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by maguirre
                  Makes my blood boil even more when I see this Andrade also ducked Lara nonsense when in fact it was the exact opposite. Andrade became in fact mandatory to Lara's belt and for some unknown reason nothing was offered to Andrade from the Lara camp. Lara and Decubas with the possible WBA collusion, instead fought Gausha, a complete nobody at that time.
                  https://www.boxingscene.com/demetriu...culcay--106350

                  Huh?

                  "Demetrius Andrade wants to have a world title around his waist before he goes on to fight the winner of a bout between World Boxing Council titleholder Jermell Charlo and Charles Hatley.

                  That leaves a short list of potential foes. One name at the bottom of the list is World Boxing Association beltholder Erislandy Lara.

                  “Don’t get me wrong. Lara is an interesting fight because he also is slick. But that last fight against Vanes Martirosyan, he tried to stay in the pocket a little bit, he felt comfortable with somebody he’s already fought before, which I don’t know if he’ll do that with somebody like me,” Andrade told BoxingScene.com late last month.

                  “I don’t know. If that’s the last resort, than yeah, I’m going to take the fight,” he said.

                  But it otherwise doesn’t interest him as much.

                  “He won’t engage or try and make the fight entertaining, especially if it’s coming into my favor,” Andrade explained. “He’s just going to survive, try to run, try to do the little pitty-pat counter punches. I’m not about that right now. I’m about sitting in there, doing what I need to do best, and letting the fans know that I’m willing to get in there with anybody and put on a show and make ends meet.”

                  Interestingly, while Andrade doesn’t want the WBA “super” titleholder in Lara, he would be OK with facing the secondary titleholder, Jack Culcay, who holds the sanctioning body’s “regular" belt. Andrade doesn’t know much about Culcay.

                  “I just heard of his name, that he has the WBA,” Andrade said. “I’m trying to get a title shot so I can put a belt up against Charlo where it’s big, not me trying to fight for the belt he has, even though I’m going to take it.”




                  I ask again - HUH??? lol

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                  • War Room
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                    Did you watch that video?

                    Rozier says that Derevy is too high risk and low reward for Andrade. That's why the fight didn't happen. Dunked on yourself.
                    He doesn't even say the words risk or reward, did YOU watch the video??? He did even allude to that WTF??

                    He said Andrade didn't duck him or anybody. He also said my guys don't fight my guys. You must carting around a TBI.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702

                      He also ducked the other Charlo, Sergey, Lara.

                      Also had to hold on for dear life when Liam Williams almost had him out...
                      LOL, Lara was a 3 fight showtime deal aka Alan Haymon but we can pretend it wasn't. They talked about it and it faded into nothing.

                      Charlo was 10 yrs ago when Rocnation was offering 8 million to Thurman and 40 million to Broner. Charlo was 200k for his belt vs 1.8 million for Rocnation. The Jermall of then got beat to the punch by Vanes. In fact, if you search real hard, there is a video with the Charlos where Jermall literally tells Jermell your 0 has to go. Better match up today vs Andrade

                      Andre Rozier talked about the Sergey fight. Someone even posted it but I guess he was lying.

                      Regardless BJS, Charlo 2, GGG (esp), Munguia and/or Canelo should have happened given DAZN has monster purses to back any of those fights.

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