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  • billeau2
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    #51
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime






    the point is.... how the fk was AJ ever going to beat Fury ???

    Fury is one of a small handful of orthodox fighters that I have seen during my lifetime, who can start and finish a fight as a ELITE southpaw

    not talking about the dozens of try-hards who thought that they could.... or who think that it is helpful to give their opponent a different look, despite the fact that they lose all of their own instinctive advantages

    I can only think of 3 fighters who can do it

    even Mayweather can't do it

    AJ has been totally undressed in his losses to Ruiz and Usyk







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    This is a very important distinction. "Them
    ​​​apples" has also made a similar distinction in the history section.

    Going into a South Paw stance for a minute of a round here and there is one thing. Actually being able to utilize the advantages, to fight intelligently from that position to really show mastery is an entirely different proposition. It's more clear in martial arts. One can literally practice hundreds of techniques and master a few and that's not considered particularly strange.

    One very important consideration should be the power hand. Ultimately one may well want to have their power hand in front so it is closer to the opponent. This was an issue even as far back as the mid 1800s according to an English boxing coach who was in the professional ranks at that time and who admired American fighters for their improvisational abilities, including switching so the power hand was in front to utilize it more frequently.

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      #52
      "He wouldn't have knocked me out if he didn't punch so hard..." -AJ

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      • Airborne
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        #53
        First time I ever heard a fighter making excuses BEFORE the fight happens!

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          #54
          Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
          AJ’s comment is a testimony to him LACKING the experience of dealing with southpaws. That’s a strange character flaw in a champion. He may not be able to over come that well known weakness.
          Some of you guys obviously reason and think from your arse sometimes. How on hell is lacking an experience a character flaw? Because of hatred towards AJ you can write anything in an attempt to discredit him while you are actually making a fool of yourself. He honestly shared his experience with fighting a southpaw(s) with boxing fans and all some of you make out of it is that his making an excuse or lacks character. It's just baffling what hatred can turn people into, they completely lose their thinking faculty. Most boxers learn few things from each fight, be it about their own craft and or their opponent's style and tactics.

          Regarding the rematch, we have to wait and see whether AJ has learned from the experience in the first fight and destroys Usyk this time around or if Usyk is able to repeat. It's for that reason an interesting fight.

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          • Bob
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            #55
            Delusional robot clinging onto belts & relevance with rematchroom paperwork.

            Bellew had the best success with his counter right to the body.

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              #56
              Originally posted by P to the J

              Always think Fury looks really awkward as a southpaw, he just doesn’t look anywhere near as bad as Whyte doing it. Seen him trying to left uppercut from there and it’s not good.





              aside from the fact that AJ just admitted southpaws give him nightmares....

              .... Fury has a HUGE advantage in length (height+reach), a HUGE advantage in skills/style, and he has a HUGE advantage in ringIQ

              how the fk was AJ ever going to beat him ? LMAO







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                #57
                Originally posted by billeau2
                This is a very important distinction. "Them
                ​​​apples" has also made a similar distinction in the history section.

                Going into a South Paw stance for a minute of a round here and there is one thing. Actually being able to utilize the advantages, to fight intelligently from that position to really show mastery is an entirely different proposition. It's more clear in martial arts. One can literally practice hundreds of techniques and master a few and that's not considered particularly strange.

                One very important consideration should be the power hand. Ultimately one may well want to have their power hand in front so it is closer to the opponent. This was an issue even as far back as the mid 1800s according to an English boxing coach who was in the professional ranks at that time and who admired American fighters for their improvisational abilities, including switching so the power hand was in front to utilize it more frequently.





                I see your points, but...

                1) it is far easier to switch in MMA... you can't really compare them in that example

                2) you cannot get the same leverage on your power hand if you switch stance







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                • Oregonian
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  Andy Ruiz has a LOT of natural boxing ability - who have you got vs him and Ortiz? I'm convinced Andy will fight for a title again.
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                  I am not calling Andy a bum. Let me be clear about that.
                  I’m just going with AJ’s nonsense about “smoking Usyk if he wasn’t a southpaw.”

                  If that was true then he should have “smoked Andy” or at least not get embarrassed the way he was.
                  Usyk is a skilled boxer, Southpaw or not.

                  Ortiz is old but his left punch is lethal. That’s all he’s got going for him so unless he KOs Andy cold, I got Andy winning a UD.
                  And yes, I see him getting a title shot again.


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                    #59
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime






                    aside from the fact that AJ just admitted southpaws give him nightmares....

                    .... Fury has a HUGE advantage in length (height+reach), a HUGE advantage in skills/style, and he has a HUGE advantage in ringIQ

                    how the fk was AJ ever going to beat him ? LMAO







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                    If AJ beats Usyk as a southpaw, Fury as a southpaw is not a problem.

                    Fury has fought Chisora as a southpaw, who was confused and unprepared on the day - but he is not a southpaw, he'll leave gaps everywhere for someone like AJ, with a huge straight right to exploit.

                    Fortunately, Fury is a superb boxer who doesn't need to fight southpaw.

                    Btw, Fury has problems with Southpaws too.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Boxviewer

                      Some of you guys obviously reason and think from your arse sometimes. How on hell is lacking an experience a character flaw? Because of hatred towards AJ you can write anything in an attempt to discredit him while you are actually making a fool of yourself. He honestly shared his experience with fighting a southpaw(s) with boxing fans and all some of you make out of it is that his making an excuse or lacks character. It's just baffling what hatred can turn people into, they completely lose their thinking faculty. Most boxers learn few things from each fight, be it about their own craft and or their opponent's style and tactics.

                      Regarding the rematch, we have to wait and see whether AJ has learned from the experience in the first fight and destroys Usyk this time around or if Usyk is able to repeat. It's for that reason an interesting fight.
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                      We have to wait and see ….” How many boxers have gotten beaten and then chased irrelevant rematches throughout history?

                      I recall British fans saying Floyd was ducking Hatton by not giving him a rematch and having a different ref who would “allow Hatton to fight his fight”.

                      I get that in HW, anyone can be knocked out cold so AJ has a puncher’s chance for sure but how many times do we need to see AJ get beat then get a rematch (because he is the obvious cash cow) and then winning the rematch? That’s where we’re headed with AJ’s career.
                      Soon he’ll be bragging about being the only 4 time HW world champion - by virtue of getting beat and then getting rematches. How is that a thing to brag about?

                      You are correct about the silly nonsense that “lacking experience is a character flaw” label. It’s not.
                      If Usyk wasn’t a southpaw AJ says he’d “smoke him”, well Andy Ruiz sure wasn’t a southpaw so what happened there?

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