Comments Thread For: Showtime Head On Charlo-Andrade: The Time Has Already Passed For That

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  • Doubledagger
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    #71
    Originally posted by OnePunch

    Not a chance. I'm not even a fan of Jermall but no doubt he ghouls Andrade........
    In case you haven't noticed, Jermall is trash against southpaws.

    Jermall vs Trout?
    Jermall vs Koborov?
    Jermall vs Montiel?

    All southpaws


    He looked trash in all three.

    It's the other way around.

    Andrade would make Charlo look ******.

    I'd ve rooting for Charlo but I cannot 8gnore the obvious signs.

    I favour Charlo over GGG, Canelo, and Benavidez because he is actually very good against orthodox stance fighters.

    But against southpaws, and a slick one like Andrade?

    He would look like a bum.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #72
      Originally posted by just the facts

      Abso********lutely hilarious coming from Conor Benn’s biggest fan.
      yeah benns taking a real easy fight next.... moving up in weight as underdog

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      • MeanestNiceGuy
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        #73
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Andrade’s time passed after he turned down a couple good names, including pulling out of a Charlo fight a month before the fight due to wanting more money.

        After turning a couple good names down (Charlo, Lara), Andrade’s career just didn’t pan out the way Roc Nation led him to think and he started calling out those names he had turned down and no one was interested anymore. No one wants to fight an untrustworthy clown.

        Who’s Andrade ducking these days? Zhanibek? Isn’t Andrade a little too old to still be ducking dudes?
        Yep! He can't get around this. He pulled out of the Charlo negotiations twice, I believe....but once for sure. He thought he was hot **** and it backfired on him. I remember his Friday Night Fight days on ESPN and how he somewhat struggled against an old Grady Brewer. I remember him telling his father between rounds, 'Tell me I'm the best! Tell me I'm the best!"

        So cringe.

        I like Andrade but it's clear that his time to land a big fight has passed- as sad as that is to say. Too much inactivity in his prime years, entitlement, and bad management is what got him to this space. What can DAZN really do for him when their middleweights all wanted Canelo and saw Andrade as an obstacle?

        Both he and Jermall should just retire or take another long ass break from the sport. At this moment, they're both nothing more than distractions and people just want to see good fights being made. That's it.

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        • Rodtang
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          #74
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg

          Love it mate, masterful job of deflection! Bravo! Of course the facts still stand that through two signings who did matchroom ever get for him? When he was signed to the same
          promotional company and network of Canelo and ggg?
          Lol well that was for your benefit pal, it's your line I stole lol. I'm not gonna deny what your saying. But Canelo and GGG can go on and get other big fights. And have done. Look at Charlos last opponent and his next. Thats the difference.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #75
            Originally posted by Rodtang

            Lol well that was for your benefit pal, it's your line I stole lol. I'm not gonna deny what your saying. But Canelo and GGG can go on and get other big fights. And have done. Look at Charlos last opponent and his next. Thats the difference.
            The difference in what? Montiel? What am I missing here. What’s the goal in stating montiel in comparison to Andrade who signed with hearn twice and fought nothing but Barnsley bin men

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            • AKAcronym
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              #76
              Originally posted by hhh1200

              The fighter's PEOPLE talking to the media vs the actual FIGHTER talking to the media. The storylines from the perspective I remember 4 years ago so I'm going to roll with that.




              Derevy and Jacobs ended up fighting but not until the numbers, situation and dates were right.

              I know all of these fighters b.c they have been right in the face of the public in recent months but in 4 years the narratives can easily change but Central Asian fanboys only want to talk about the GREAT Janibek who does absolutely nothing for a 34-year-old veteran who is looking for fights vs. his piers

              BJS - Nasal Spray
              Charlo - 7-10 million DAZN
              Canelo - Same platform, dumps belts for 160 undisputed and fights the great sweet cheeks for undisputed 168
              Munguia - Andrade is bigger than Sadam Ali so I'll pass on the mandatory opportunity
              GGG - I got equity thanks to blood-sucking Canelo so I don't have to fight you
              He's the only one yet to fight a name and he's the common denominator in several fights falling through. At this point I don't really care what Andrade does or doesn't do but it's clear he is/was an issue to deal with in negotiating.

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              • brettWall
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                #77
                The Showtime executive Espinoza has spoken. You can say it's the final nail in the Andrade/Charlo coffin.

                What I'm trying to understand is what is Jermall Charlo waiting for? When is his next fight going to happen? It's been more than a year since his last fight.

                Why is Espinoza focused on something that can't happen?

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                • Rodtang
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                  The difference in what? Montiel? What am I missing here. What’s the goal in stating montiel in comparison to Andrade who signed with hearn twice and fought nothing but Barnsley bin men
                  Your misinterpreting my comment. Canelo and GGG always take one big fight or another. If they don't want to fight Andrade, but go and justify it by taking another big fight, that's acceptable. Charlo knocked back offers for an Andrade fight. To fight who? A big fight? No. A sparring partner in Montiel. Next he's fighting Andrades leftovers, when it's Andrade he should be fighting. You see when it comes to making these fights, it takes two to tango. PBC don't tango.

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                  • FLY TY
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Rodtang

                    Ah ok, I see. So when they called it showtime sports, the sport is important to them. Because all I see is they want to make money. That's cool, maybe they should call it showtime business. And just have the fighters sit in their corners with their screen imposed bank balances there for fans to watch. Because to be honest, as pathetic as that would be, it would probably be more exciting than Charlos next fight. Big bro Mall got money but his legacy is underachiever. And little bro Mell is gonna be the object of his green eyed monster lol. It hurts to be the ugly twin. But hey, he's got cash. Espinoza mean while is laughing plenty. Because y'all are paying for it lol. He's definitely laughing. Laughing and lying.
                    Huh? Showtime Sports doesn't produce sports, is what you're saying? Espinoza job is to make the network money, or he's out of a job. Maybe you don't care, but obviously he does. He is saying he's not going to overpay fighters for fights that Rodtang wants to see, if the fights won't produce financially.

                    Clearly you know nothing about money if you can't understand that.

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                    • jqSide
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                      #80
                      One of those many potential fights that will be relegated in the dustbin of this sport's history.

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