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  • jqSide
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    #81
    One specific group of fans only blaming Andrade. As if Charlo's record is any different. If anything, I would blame both just to simplify things.

    To straighten the record, Andrade tried to make amends with PBC, I'm trying to recall the date, but he showed it by hanging around the SHO/PBC premises and even participated in a PBC fight as undercard vs Willie Nelson. Everyone thought PBC would continue to work with him, but no offers were made since the Nelson fight. He had no choice but to sign with HBO and you know the rest of the story. PBC just didn't want anything to do with him.

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    • Oldskoolg
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      #82
      Originally posted by Rodtang

      Your misinterpreting my comment. Canelo and GGG always take one big fight or another. If they don't want to fight Andrade, but go and justify it by taking another big fight, that's acceptable. Charlo knocked back offers for an Andrade fight. To fight who? A big fight? No. A sparring partner in Montiel. Next he's fighting Andrades leftovers, when it's Andrade he should be fighting. You see when it comes to making these fights, it takes two to tango. PBC don't tango.
      No sir, Andrade refused to fight Charlo and then claimed if hearn wanted to pay him big money to take on Barnsley bin men then he would keep doing it. And by the way, other than Canelo, are you really claiming ggg’s resume really stands out?

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      • OnePunch
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        #83
        Originally posted by Doubledagger

        In case you haven't noticed, Jermall is trash against southpaws.

        Jermall vs Trout?
        Jermall vs Koborov?
        Jermall vs Montiel?

        All southpaws


        He looked trash in all three.

        It's the other way around.

        Andrade would make Charlo look ******.

        I'd ve rooting for Charlo but I cannot 8gnore the obvious signs.

        I favour Charlo over GGG, Canelo, and Benavidez because he is actually very good against orthodox stance fighters.

        But against southpaws, and a slick one like Andrade?

        He would look like a bum.
        based on WHAT? Because Andrade looks decent against C and D level fighters? He has NEVER faced a current or former world champion, so any speculation about how he MIGHT perform against top level opposition is just that, SPECULATION

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        • Rodtang
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          #84
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg

          No sir, Andrade refused to fight Charlo and then claimed if hearn wanted to pay him big money to take on Barnsley bin men then he would keep doing it. And by the way, other than Canelo, are you really claiming ggg’s resume really stands out?
          Charlo was offered 7mil. They had no interest. There's no way he got paid that for Montiel. And Montiel didn't bring another title to the table. GGGs resume may not stand out as such but he's taken significant fights. By first becoming a champion again, and then unifying again. And he's kind of now got the biggest fight out there, and a crack at undisputed. What more can the guy do? That's worth not fighting Andrade and it sure as hell better than fighting Juan Macias Montiel. Mexico has bin men too you know.

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          • just the facts
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            #85
            Originally posted by Madison boxing

            yeah benns taking a real easy fight next.... moving up in weight as underdog
            Starving down a fighter that isn’t very good to begin with. What a hero!

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              #86
              Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas
              People aren't talking about fights because they have 0 faith you clowns will ever make them.
              Seriously that's so true how can people talk about a fight when they know its not even in discussions to being made and if it was made then boxing fans would talk about it discuss and predict it like they would any other unification that happens in boxing. These clowns just wanna duck other champions on the notion that people don't wanna see title unifications because the other fighter hasn't got a 'profile' but if they let him fight there guys maybe he'll get one. but thell throw charlo in with Sulecki and montiel and think people give a **** about that.
              Last edited by Boxing2695; 08-11-2022, 08:54 PM.

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              • Rodtang
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                #87
                Originally posted by FLY TY

                Huh? Showtime Sports doesn't produce sports, is what you're saying? Espinoza job is to make the network money, or he's out of a job. Maybe you don't care, but obviously he does. He is saying he's not going to overpay fighters for fights that Rodtang wants to see, if the fights won't produce financially.

                Clearly you know nothing about money if you can't understand that.
                Ok that's cool. And I wouldn't expect them to overpay. That makes no sense. But when the other side offers a lot of money and their picking up the tab, why are PBC fighters being denied the chance to earn and create legacy? Instead Charlo fought a sparring partner. Next he's fighting a polish guy with a name that only polish people can pronounce. Andrades leftovers. Instead of Andrade. Never mind triple G, Charlo should be called, triple D. That's Dull, Dull, Dull. And Espinoza is triple L. Liar, Liar, Liar.

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                • Doubledagger
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by OnePunch

                  based on WHAT? Because Andrade looks decent against C and D level fighters? He has NEVER faced a current or former world champion, so any speculation about how he MIGHT perform against top level opposition is just that, SPECULATION
                  Yes we don't know how Andrade would perform against top level opposition, but we KNOW, for a FACT, that Charlo is utter trash against slick southpaws, even C level ones like Koborov and Montiel.

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                  • Dip_Slide
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                    #89
                    So much lost potential in boxing right now from Tank to Charlo to Andrade and the list goes on and on. Some of these fighters could've made 50+ mil in their careers if they would've taken more risks and fought more frequently. They think their promoters are doing the right thing for them but 20 years from now they're going to look back and say what a waste of talent that was. You only have a very short window of opportunity to be the best. USE IT!

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