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  • #21
    If you look at the current world rankings, there are four fighters in the top 5 or 6 spots in all the governing bodies. Keith Thurman, Jaron Ennis, Vergil Ortiz jr, and Conor Benn. These are the top 4 in both the WBA and WBO. Their in the top 5 in WBC with David Avanesyan in there in 4th spot. They occupy the top 6 with the IBF with 2nd spot vacant and no 4 spot going to a Ukraine fighter, who's name I'm not gonna attempt, and may not be available anyway. The point being, that those four are highly unlikely to face each other at the moment, as they all await a title shot, which they're practically all guaranteed to get. After Spence, Crawford, the belts most likely become vacant. If Spence, Crawford doesn't happen, they most likely still become vacant, as both have intimated that they will probably go to 154. Therefore, these four guys are waiting for the reset. And in the case of Thurman, if he can't get Spence or Crawford, he may well go to 154 also. So for now it's limbo, and let's hope the Spence, Crawford fight happens soon.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
      He should call out Jaron Ennis and Vergil Ortiz, not an old past prime Thurman.
      Old? He's only 33. Now his mental and motivational "age"? Who knows...

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

        So by your logic, Ennis is also becoming arrogant. He's only beaten old fighters not in their prime, and he too has called out Thurman. Ennis has nothing to offer Thurman either. And I don't see Ennis people trying to make a fight with Benn. Maybe they don't want to risk it either.
        The fact is neither are making the fight, I don't think Connor is big on anyones list thats why his making statements against Thurman trying to embarrass him into a fight. It won't work anyway Thurman hasn't mentioned Connor once but he has Ennis. So let Connor and Ennis fight each other but Hearn won't risk Connor but try and get him into a mandatory title shot. Thurman has said to these upcoming fighters his no gstekeeper to their career. These guys should try another route i suspect Thurman v Lara is next at 154.

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        • #24
          Benn is not big on anyone's list. I accept that. But the fact is Ennis isn't big on anyone's list either. The point is their both in identical positions. High risk low reward. I don't blame Thurman for not wanting these guys. He wants big fights and big bags. But nobody is critical of Ennis or Ortiz jr for what they say or do. They get positive feedback. And yet Benn, from the same standpoint, saying and trying to do the same things, gets slaughtered by the same people who are positive towards the other two. It's double standards. They'll all have average fights until there's a vacant title to go for. And Thurman is only after Spence or Crawford at 147, or he's most likely going to 154 as you have said.

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          • #25
            One Time Thurman seems to have become a strange version of Canelo
            in the sense that those who call him out don't want to fight each other.

            Ennis and Benn want no part of each other. They just continue to fight scrubs.

            It's a fckd up sport.
            paulf paulf likes this.

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            • #26
              GBP, who is also with DAZN, has Vergil Ortiz and Alexis Rocha.

              Why not say the names of some fights that can actually be made on DAZN?

              Oh, yeah, because Hearn has no interion of actually making these fights.
              Last edited by paulf; 08-05-2022, 11:35 AM.

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              • #27
                I can't see Thurman defeating Benn. I think Benn is reckless and a bit unpolished, and maybe not as good a boxer, but he's a hard hitter and at this point, he has a LOT more energy than Thurman does and that's gonna eventually break down one time. Thurman fights like he's old.
                Last edited by Wacked_Out; 08-05-2022, 11:57 AM.

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                • #28
                  he using Thurman name that is all he is doing

                  you calling out guys you know your promoter can't deliver
                  Last edited by sicko; 08-05-2022, 12:17 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

                    Top prospects rarely call eachother nowadays, the path to go towards a shot at the championship is to fight ex-champions. Have Jaron Ennis and Vergil Ortiz call eachother out?
                    That’s the truth. It just doesn’t make sense for promoters to have their young fighters with potential face each other these days. Someone will lose. It might take a while to see how relevant the winner actually becomes.
                    An ex champ or faded star who might be a weight class past his best is the stepping stone like you said. If the prospect loses then they lost to a fighter with credibility PR wise. Always a chance for a rematch.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Rodtang View Post
                      Benn is not big on anyone's list. I accept that. But the fact is Ennis isn't big on anyone's list either. The point is their both in identical positions. High risk low reward. I don't blame Thurman for not wanting these guys. He wants big fights and big bags. But nobody is critical of Ennis or Ortiz jr for what they say or do. They get positive feedback. And yet Benn, from the same standpoint, saying and trying to do the same things, gets slaughtered by the same people who are positive towards the other two. It's double standards. They'll all have average fights until there's a vacant title to go for. And Thurman is only after Spence or Crawford at 147, or he's most likely going to 154 as you have said.
                      The difference for me is Ennis says he wants to fight Thurman but Benn goes after him personally, unless I've missed an article where Ennis attacks Thurman then I stand corrected. That's why I call Benn arrogant but we wait and see who Hearn delivers.

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