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Which 168-175 lbs fighter could give Prime Roy Jones problems?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Silence View Post
    Montell Griffin exposed him in the first fight with his short reach and smart pressure on the ropes.

    At 168, Canelo maybe has a slim chance. Pressure counter puncher with slick defense. Calzaghe's high work rate and high output would be problem for any Roy. Ward's dirty style is also problematic for him. Jones beats others with ease at 168.

    At 175, Beterbiev could KO him badly. Jones' two pathetic losses against Tarver and Johnson were at 175. Beterbiev is better puncher than both. Kovalev, Bivol and Gvozdyk could have some success. But, they are too robotic for Roy.​​​​
    How was he exposed when he was ahead on the cards, dropped him, and was about to finish him?

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    • #12
      Biterbiev would be a tough out

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      • #13
        Originally posted by War Room View Post
        Ward and Beterbiev would have been good fights.
        Ward is very technical and dirty but I keep seeing a big speed discrepancy.

        Beterbiev is such a wildcard. Browne threw a lot of wild blind haymakers you see from a prime Jones but Beterbiev's guard was on point. And he is probably the most athletic guy Beterbiev has seen. What would the fight look like in the final 3rd if Jones didn't get him out of there?


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        • #14
          Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post

          Ward is very technical and dirty but I keep seeing a big speed discrepancy.

          Beterbiev is such a wildcard. Browne threw a lot of wild blind haymakers you see from a prime Jones but Beterbiev's guard was on point. And he is probably the most athletic guy Beterbiev has seen. What would the fight look like in the final 3rd if Jones didn't get him out of there?
          I got Jones winning both fights, Beterbiev probably easier than Ward because Ward is more dynamic. People tend to forget prime time Jones because it's pretty common to remember that last images of a fighter. Prime Jones was just so fast in everything he did and if lesser fighters could put Beterbiev on the canvas, I can see Jones heavily disrupting him.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by War Room View Post

            I got Jones winning both fights, Beterbiev probably easier than Ward because Ward is more dynamic. People tend to forget prime time Jones because it's pretty common to remember that last images of a fighter. Prime Jones was just so fast in everything he did and if lesser fighters could put Beterbiev on the canvas, I can see Jones heavily disrupting him.
            This is the Roy I'm talking about. Something happen to him after he went to HW and came back down. Notice I said Beterbiev has to make it out of the 1st 8-9 rounds with him when the fight will slow down a bit.

            Last edited by hhh1200; 08-04-2022, 01:22 AM.

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            • #16
              I always wanted to see him versus Michael Nunn. I think Roy wins but Nunn bring a tall southpaw with speed and decent power while being unorthodox would've been a puzzle to solve.

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              • #17
                With full random Olympic style drug testing and strong penalties for cheating, Roy Jones would get beat by lots of fighters prime vs prime. He was a performance enhancing drugs cheater in his prime. He popped dirty against Richard Hall and it got swept under the rug. After the testing and penalties for popping was better, Roy was knocked out by journeyman. The guy is vastly overrated for beating mostly bums while using performance enhancing drugs. And before people say he was old when journeyman were stopping him, Floyd Mayweather Jr. was still P4P king in a harder division than Roy was in at that age. Pacquiao was also still a top p4p fighter at the age Roy was getting beat by bums.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post

                  This is the Roy I'm talking about. Something happen to him after he went to HW and came back down. Notice I said Beterbiev has to make it out of the 1st 8-9 rounds with him when the fight will slow down a bit.

                  Or the drug testing got better along with harsher penalties for popping dirty . Ripped Fuel Roid Jones went from Superman bum slayer to getting knocked out by bums. Without his performance enhancing drugs, he was shit.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JohnnyRebel View Post
                    With full random Olympic style drug testing and strong penalties for cheating, Roy Jones would get beat by lots of fighters prime vs prime. He was a performance enhancing drugs cheater in his prime. He popped dirty against Richard Hall and it got swept under the rug. After the testing and penalties for popping was better, Roy was knocked out by journeyman. The guy is vastly overrated for beating mostly bums while using performance enhancing drugs. And before people say he was old when journeyman were stopping him, Floyd Mayweather Jr. was still P4P king in a harder division than Roy was in at that age. Pacquiao was also still a top p4p fighter at the age Roy was getting beat by bums.
                    I didn't know PEDS give you unorthodox style, handspeed and footspeed. His first legit loss was in 2004. He beat Hopkins, Toney and McCallum until then. May and Pac are cheaters too. May got caught with Fluid IV types Lidocaine and Xylocaine. Pac rejected VADA test around 2009-2010 for Floyd fight.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Silence View Post
                      Montell Griffin exposed him in the first fight with his short reach and smart pressure on the ropes.

                      At 168, Canelo maybe has a slim chance. Pressure counter puncher with slick defense. Calzaghe's high work rate and high output would be problem for any Roy. Ward's dirty style is also problematic for him. Jones beats others with ease at 168.

                      At 175, Beterbiev could KO him badly. Jones' two pathetic losses against Tarver and Johnson were at 175. Beterbiev is better puncher than both. Kovalev, Bivol and Gvozdyk could have some success. But, they are too robotic for Roy.​​​​

                      montiel was down on the cards at the time of the dq. So I dont know if that's exposing someone

                      Canelo had problems with tiny Floyd. And just got dominated by bivol. What you think a 28 year old Roy would do to him

                      Tarver, Johnson, and calzaghe all beat a post heavyweight Roy that was 36 and over. That's not the real Roy Jones
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