Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce-Joseph Parker Set For September 24; Announcement Thursday In London

[joe strong]

He did duck Joyce that actually happened months ago and is the sole reason Joyce fought Hammer .

Now has no relevance to then , it’s quite clear months ago that’s old news .

Parker has run out of options since the Whyte fight isn’t happening and knows it’s a last chance saloon to get a title shot again .

Both parties said it could happen and it shouldve months ago the reason was Parker ducked him it’s quite obvious he didn’t fancy the fight then .not sure where you think I was wrong because Parker got out of it .

The last time the fight fell through even with multiple media interviews from both guys so I’m not really celebrate when team Parker’s involved .


I know one thing they had to really reel Parker in fir this one I wonder what they offered ? Keep in mind Parker still sounds not very enthusiastic about it even if it does happen as though he dreads it this was his comment .

“Nothing confirmed. A few fights are being worked on at the minute including that one.”

Parker and Higgins have had way more energy expressing looking elsewhere as soon as it was canceled . Warren definitely wants it I don’t get that feeling the other way .

#22
05-27-2022, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
That’s nonsense a baby just doesn’t pop out of nowhere ,are we to believe Lee had no clue his wife was pregnant months ago ,did she not grow a little ?

This is a clear duck anyone logical knows this and know Parker used Joyce to stay in the boxing news otherwise he isn’t on national t.v a few weeks ago with Joyce saying the fight is basically a done deal until now they found out Lee isn’t available or isn’t accessible right we believe that one . The spider bite was actually believable .not so much the injury to get out of the Hrgovic fight but this one tops them all as a well thought out excuse way beforehand to not fight Joyce .

my response…

The fight has never been signed! Warren admitted jumping the gun announcing it during Whyte/Fury… It is funny how every major boxing news outlet including JOYCE’s promoter has confirmed this. The fight is still going to happen in September. You are the only one who has a different conspiracy. They have been trying to sign this fight since December. He is a free agent & is not replacing Lee as his trainer. Why is everything always a conspiracy with you? When Frank Warren the promoter of the event confirms the legitimacy of the delay I tend to believe him over some guy who lives on boxingscene. Parker has to beat Joyce to get a shot anyway & he just finished kicking Chisora’s butt in December. Why the hell would he need to use Joyce’s name to stay in the press? Parker already beat Takam in his prime & is younger than Joyce. He has a lot of experience & a better resume. What exactly has Joyce done other than beat Dubois & plethora of washed up HWs? Ustinov, Stiverne & Takam. All in their 40s were done but Jennings was a decent win. Parker would be by far his biggest step up. Parker already has made well over 20 million so he ain’t hurting for money. Joyce is the one who can’t sit around. The parker fight will happen just 2 months later than expected. Parker is almost 7 years younger than Joyce & look at who he has fought compared to Joyce. Joyce needs to step it up quick & start making some real bank soon because time is running out.
Last edited by joe strong; 05-27-2022, 04:53 PM.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Nice how you downplay Fury's win based on his size but completely ignore the fact that everyone else bigger than Del couldn't do anywhere near what Fury did.

You know for a fact I didn't watch the fight live - that's impressive insight, right there, based on .... absoluteky nothing. And are you trying to award yourself extra brownie points for watching Fury's career unfold as if that was any measure of talking sense? To reiterate, AND, through having watched it - live, the first fight was not how you described - it was a brawl but Fury ultimately and clearly got the better of Del as the rounds went on with Chisora taking more and more punishment. Haye was starting to blow out his arse when that knockout came. On the other hand, Fury in the second fight was fresh as a daisy with Chisora swollen and bludgeoned into submission. But... but 'force meeting force', though. SMH

Chisora was ****** out for the first time in his career vs David Haye. That is a fact.

It took 6 years, 6 years for Chisora to be knocked to the canvas again. Derek Chisora was not knocked out by Tyson Fury, he was pulled out by his corner.

David Haye's performance was more violent, and way more impressive. A 210 pound Heavyweight, opting to move forward vs a peak 240 + pound Derek Chisora 'And attempt to cancel out his momentum, is for me? A more difficult task and impressive feat than a 6"10 250-260 pound Heavyweight, boxing from a distance.

Tyson Fury stylistically should of done that the first time around vs Chisora 'But instead he was battered'. Stylistically Chisora is tailor made for Tyson Fury, both fights should of been straight forward.

Stylistically Haye vs Chisora was a clash. There are no Heavyweights active today, who weigh 210-220 pounds, who can fight even this Chisora the way Haye did.

Usyk could not do it, Parker could not do it. All of these fighters have to at some point back up, and create distance. And this is against a Derek Chisora way outside of his peak.

David Haye's performance vs Derek Chisora is unprecedented. We see Chisora get out boxed and drop rounds all of the time. But still very few fighters, decide to meet force with force and go straight through him 'Effectively that is what David Haye achieved'.

It does not matter if he was showing signs of the pace being difficult. It was a violent fight, and Haye did not drop a round 'Astonishingly he beat Chisora at his own game, like no fighter since has achieved'.

David Haye performance vs Chisora is by far greater.

[gooderz84]

Great fight! I think for Joyce to be widely accepted by the boxing public, he needs to win decisively. I think that when Joyce loses, it will be to someone that does not fall for his terrific timing. He finds someone that just cancels that entirely. Until then, he keeps confusing the uneducated by looking slow and landing great shots. He has a lack of speed and someone will expose that. Up until now, nobody has had the key to unlock that door.
as always, I could be wrong and he could enjoy a dynamic nature of that timing and he could beat everyone and surprise us.

One thing I've noticed about Joyce is his gross punch resistance. The Dubois fight he was eating them huge shots like muffins it's almost like his safety is negligible.

Now with all his amateur pedigree and top level Olympic training I cannot believe that he is still allowed to walk forward with his hands so low being a heavyweight unless they all know he can withstand being hit by a steam train. Of course, this punch resistance will count for nothing if one day, like you say, someone runs rings around him - but just an observation

[fistic flow]

Chisora was ****** out for the first time in his career vs David Haye. That is a fact.

It took 6 years, 6 years for Chisora to be knocked to the canvas again. Derek Chisora was not knocked out by Tyson Fury, he was pulled out by his corner.

David Haye's performance was more violent, and way more impressive. A 210 pound Heavyweight, opting to move forward vs a peak 240 + pound Derek Chisora 'And attempt to cancel out his momentum, is for me? A more difficult task and impressive feat than a 6"10 250-260 pound Heavyweight, boxing from a distance.

Tyson Fury stylistically should of done that the first time around vs Chisora 'But instead he was battered'. Stylistically Chisora is tailor made for Tyson Fury, both fights should of been straight forward.

Stylistically Haye vs Chisora was a clash. There are no Heavyweights active today, who weigh 210-220 pounds, who can fight even this Chisora the way Haye did.

Usyk could not do it, Parker could not do it. All of these fighters have to at some point back up, and create distance. And this is against a Derek Chisora way outside of his peak.

David Haye's performance vs Derek Chisora is unprecedented. We see Chisora get out boxed and drop rounds all of the time. But still very few fighters, decide to meet force with force and go straight through him 'Effectively that is what David Haye achieved'.

It does not matter if he was showing signs of the pace being difficult. It was a violent fight, and Haye did not drop a round 'Astonishingly he beat Chisora at his own game, like no fighter since has achieved'.

David Haye performance vs Chisora is by far greater.

Haye has knock out power - so, then you could say it was expected, as you say of Fury with his skills. If Haye can wobble Valuev then he is expected to be able to drop a foot-to-the-floor, only-one-way-to-fight Chisora. You're rewriting history saying Haye didn't lose a round. He was taking heat, looked ungainly and had his back to the ropes when he caught Chisora coming in, so hardly constantly driving him back how you imagine it.

Fury was around 20 years of age when he fought Chisora the first time - so nowhere near prime. The second was a masterclass where he took away everything offensive from the offensive-mided Chisora and in Chisora's prime which has never been repeated. Haye could easily have got knocked out the way the fight was going, whereas there was never a hint of Chisora being able to doing anything in Fury 2.

Compettive vs uncompetitive - you choose the former, I choose the latter as the better win,

[deathofaclown]

Good fight, I like this.

We know Joyce has a chin, but it’s also worth noting he has been knocked out as an amateur. You can say that’s a while ago but he’s only human. Boxing history tells us if you’ve been knocked out before, you can be again. he’s also there to be hit and Parker on his day is fast and accurate. It’s not completely out of the question Parker could crack Joyce’s chin with accumulation. I still think Joyce is a nightmare for most of the division, But you have to wonder how long you can keep getting cracked over and over again before eventually you get put down again.

Parker has decent foot speed too when he’s a bit lighter. But Joyce has deceptively good feet, His hands are very slow but he actually moves around the ring very well and that’s why he is able to cut fighters off and get into range making his slower hands not too much of a problem… and probably why he looks easier to beat from the outside than the reality

Interesting fight. I actually think stylistically it suits Parker in some ways, but we know Joyce will stay relentless for 12 rounds and not sure Parker has the grit in him to really put it on the line and go for a win if it’s competitive.

[REDEEMER]

#22
05-27-2022, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
That’s nonsense a baby just doesn’t pop out of nowhere ,are we to believe Lee had no clue his wife was pregnant months ago ,did she not grow a little ?

This is a clear duck anyone logical knows this and know Parker used Joyce to stay in the boxing news otherwise he isn’t on national t.v a few weeks ago with Joyce saying the fight is basically a done deal until now they found out Lee isn’t available or isn’t accessible right we believe that one . The spider bite was actually believable .not so much the injury to get out of the Hrgovic fight but this one tops them all as a well thought out excuse way beforehand to not fight Joyce .

my response…

The fight has never been signed! Warren admitted jumping the gun announcing it during Whyte/Fury… It is funny how every major boxing news outlet including JOYCE’s promoter has confirmed this. The fight is still going to happen in September. You are the only one who has a different conspiracy. They have been trying to sign this fight since December. He is a free agent & is not replacing Lee as his trainer. Why is everything always a conspiracy with you? When Frank Warren the promoter of the event confirms the legitimacy of the delay I tend to believe him over some guy who lives on boxingscene. Parker has to beat Joyce to get a shot anyway & he just finished kicking Chisora’s butt in December. Why the hell would he need to use Joyce’s name to stay in the press? Parker already beat Takam in his prime & is younger than Joyce. He has a lot of experience & a better resume. What exactly has Joyce done other than beat Dubois & plethora of washed up HWs? Ustinov, Stiverne & Takam. All in their 40s were done but Jennings was a decent win. Parker would be by far his biggest step up. Parker already has made well over 20 million so he ain’t hurting for money. Joyce is the one who can’t sit around. The parker fight will happen just 2 months later than expected. Parker is almost 7 years younger than Joyce & look at who he has fought compared to Joyce. Joyce needs to step it up quick & start making some real bank soon because time is running out.
Last edited by joe strong; 05-27-2022, 04:53 PM.

Again he ducked the fight anyone watched the press conference saw Warren expose Parker for doing so and had his texts to read on his phone . Not really much more to say every I said actually happened so your showing that with my own post ?


The fight wasn’t going to happen that’s nonsense ,the press conference showed why the fights happening now so your just talking in circles . Most of Joyce’s sparring matches will be harder then this fight . Joyce will most likely run him over badly for being agitated as is the case whenever team Parker is involved, Warren stated he told his son to walk away from them the only reason it’s happening is Francis Warren which is just out of luck he decided to try again .

Parker didn’t kick anything,he actually lost the first Chisora fight and had a few scare moments in the second one he had to fight again because he said he wasn’t sure if he won the first time .

Joyce is also the mandatory he doesn’t need this fight so your all kinds of wrong on here .

Nowhere to run is the name of the event and we know why Warren did that and it’s because he ran away from it the first time it was a duck .

[champion4ever]

Joyce is a big boy so I expect him to win this fight comfortably. However, there is one thing that is troubling to me; He eats too many clean shots.

If he keeps get hitting flush on the chin like that I fear that it just might eventually crack.

[jasontreks]

I agree with a lot of folks here, great matchup. I give a lot of credit to Joyce for taking this fight. He could just as easily fight cream puffs until his mandatory shot comes due as the WBO #1 contender, He takes a risk and if he uses a high work rate and throws combinations, he should beat Parker. He needs to improve his defense and hand/foot speed. The speed bag, the speed bag Joe! His trainers need to work on turning his opponents in the ring if he's not going to use better footwork. Sometimes fighters try to punch too hard when they need to concentrate on hand speed and just let the power come to them. The WBA is next in line with their mandatory, but who knows when that will get figured out. That means the IBF could be next if they take turns like they're supposed to.

[Monty Fisto]

Good fight. I think Joyce will break Parker down.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Haye has knock out power - so, then you could say it was expected, as you say of Fury with his skills. If Haye can wobble Valuev then he is expected to be able to drop a foot-to-the-floor, only-one-way-to-fight Chisora. You're rewriting history saying Haye didn't lose a round. He was taking heat, looked ungainly and had his back to the ropes when he caught Chisora coming in, so hardly constantly driving him back how you imagine it.

Fury was around 20 years of age when he fought Chisora the first time - so nowhere near prime. The second was a masterclass where he took away everything offensive from the offensive-mided Chisora and in Chisora's prime which has never been repeated. Haye could easily have got knocked out the way the fight was going, whereas there was never a hint of Chisora being able to doing anything in Fury 2.

Compettive vs uncompetitive - you choose the former, I choose the latter as the better win,

If you fight Chisora head on, it is not going to be easy.

Did Fury look comfortable when he fought Chisora head on? No, he was being battered 'He was battered all about the ring'.

Only difference is between Haye & Fury, is that Haye had the ability to meet force with force and beat up Chisora.

And the end of the day, you are not going to move from your point 'And I am definitively not moving from mine'.

A 210 pound Heavyweight taking on a 240 + pound peak Chisora, fighting him head on and knocking him out 'For me is a clearly a greater physical feat than, a 6"10 250-260 pound Tyson Fury, winning a fight which was statistically tailor made for him. Any great Super Heavyweight would out box Chisora, he has dropped rounds and been out boxed many times since that fight 'But even still way past his peak, Heavyweights still struggle to fight him head on and cancel out his momentum'.

I actually think if Chisora vs Fury III is made, this current version of Tyson Fury may struggle greatly. Chisora even though he is way past his peak, I still believe he can up his levels 'Especially if he is back working with David Haye & Don Charles'.