Comments Thread For: Hearn on Haney-Kambosos Rematch: The Fight Is Not Appealing Because of The First Fight

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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    Originally posted by Corelone
    To say you don't like Haneys style is understandable. To call him a coward is too much. Ever since Pac vs Horn, Australia has been radio active. Not only did Haney go to Oz, he signed a Hearn style contract for the privilage. All that took courage. Kambosos is the one who came up short. The home town advantage and the unconscionable contract was all in his favor. I'm not a Haney nut hugger, but he's no coward.
    He “fights” really, really scared. And I think that’s because at this point he knows his chin isn’t very strong. He fought Kambosos so scared, he didn’t really let Kambosos get off a good amount of punches and they still landed the same amount of punches (68 vs 69). This means that Haney was so fixated and not allowing Kambosos to throw anything meaningful (by holding, hugging, grabbing) that he himself barely landed anything meaningful (27%).

    Those are really bad numbers. And when you watch the fight you realize what happened. He fought scared. No one who gets in the ring for a living, to fight, is a coward. But my god that was an awfully scared performance there.

    What would have been the worst that would happen if Haney opened up more and actually put together some good combinations against Kambosos? “Oh no, he might hit me!”. It’s boxing, you’re going to get hit eventually. But my god, are you really going to fight so scared that you refuse to throw anything of substance yourself?

    I don’t care what anyone says. Haney is a terrible “fighter”. He really isn’t going to last when he steps up to a puncher with some good skill and speed. He will eventually fight some guys that are better and stronger than Linares and Kambosos and what is he going to do then, just cower up in a little ball in the corner of the ring just to not engage with them? Like what’s he going to do if he fights Tank, Lomachenko, or Ryan? Or Lopez at 140?

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    • Corelone
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      #22
      I'm not happy with Haney's style, he can't break an egg, since he hurt his arm. He's a safety first. Hit and don't be hit, don't be, don't be hit type. I don't think he'll get past the monsters, but I wouldn't truck with them at all. He has nerve.

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      • 4truth
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        #23
        Kambosos' only chance is to get a referee protecting his interests. A ref that deducts points for holding might open the fight up a little to where Haney has to actually fight.

        That's no guarantee he wins, far from it. Haney is no bum but it literally gives Kambosos a fighting chance.

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        • DougalDylan
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          #24
          Problem is currently without rematches non of the fights happen ...

          Bob won't let any non Top Rank fights happen without rematches, Loma had a rematch clause for every non Top Rank fighter and when Matchroom engineered some mandatories they were told Loma would just take Franchise if they didn't agree .

          So Franchises have to go first.

          Second mandatories have to mean something and be enforced .. non of this WIlder loses his last two draws a third and ends up still WBC #1 cr*p.

          Next you need a way to force cross belt challenges so none of this PBC walled garden cr*p happens that's killing boxing.

          Next enforce an ELO system so you can't build weak resumes if you chose to take on a guy who lost his last 6 with no ranking in your twenty third fight you should get zero credit for all those soft fights .. Mr Wilder. This stops people climbing ranking systems with no record.

          After that you can enforce no rematches otherwise things will just get worse as no one will fight anyone but be aware fighters are still prize fighters and will follow the money if Davis vs Ryan did a million ppvs its still happening twice regardless of what Haney etc would like.



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          • DClefthook
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            #25
            Originally posted by N!Ck F.

            People don’t get there is a difference between fighters and boxers.
            Fighters are gladiators, warriors, they entertain, they close out fights, they fight harder when hurt.

            haney is just a black guy that can jab, right hand, and hold well. Everytime he’s hit hard/hurt he doesn’t come back but rather holds and runs even more. He has no intention of being exciting, entertaining, and doesn’t mind when people are booing and walking out of his matches.
            Guys like Haney absolutely destroy the sport, imagine being a combat sports fan,and watching Haney box? You’d say boxing is trash and go watch a UFC fight.
            Haney is an absolute chicken **** coward who doesn’t even have enough heart or pride to fight back when hurt, perfectly content holding on for the rest of the round then talking **** after the fight.
            Absolute trash. Just like his dad and girlfriend.
            Typical weirdo non black American male. Always obsessing over black dudes. Always got something negative to say about us (behind our backs or online). Always analyzing every thing that we do and not even realizing that it's their own jealousy and envy that's making them feel this way, especially when it comes to black pro athletes. They were raised in America to believe that black guys should be left at the bottom and get shyted on every chance you get. Then they open their eyes and they see blacks flying on private jets, driving Roll Royces and signing 250 million dollar contracts. But what really gets their goose cooking is the fact that those Marilyn Monroe lookin gals that they obsess over but cant get. The reason why they can't get them is because those Marilyn Monroe lookin gals are obsessing over those bad black boys. That really makes their blood boil! So carry on ol' chap with your obsession, oops, I mean hate. You want to know why you never see on this site a lot of random black hatred towards anyone else? Because we don't obsess over you guys and you're sort of irrelevant to us. We're too busy setting up dates to fuq your sisters and mothers.LOL

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            • REMOVE SHARK 5510
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              #26
              I really looked forward for their first match. Rematch? Not at all

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #27
                This is all Teofimo's fault.

                He never should have let someone like George Kambosos beat him in the first place. And just in case the unthinkable happened he is the one that should have forced a rematch clause on Kambosos.

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                • Monty Fisto
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                  #28
                  It's a necessary evil. Haney only got the fight because he agreed to the shltty terms, and I can't begrudge that because I fully endorse the idea of prioritising achievement over commerical considerations. Well done to Haney for believing in his own ability. If they can't sell the fight, that is the promoter's problem.

                  I think they can probably sell tickets in Oz for an undisputed fight involving an Aussie fighter anyway, even if he is the underdog. TV viewers might be challenging.

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                  • Rockybigblower
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto
                    It's a necessary evil. Haney only got the fight because he agreed to the shltty terms, and I can't begrudge that because I fully endorse the idea of prioritising achievement over commerical considerations. Well done to Haney for believing in his own ability. If they can't sell the fight, that is the promoter's problem.

                    I think they can probably sell tickets in Oz for an undisputed fight involving an Aussie fighter anyway, even if he is the underdog. TV viewers might be challenging.
                    Exactly the right answer. Eddie said in his statement that Haney will still make a bucket load of money for an easy night's work....so in reality he's just complaining about the promotor losing money. For once the fighters win out while the promotors foot the bill. And for all those who say there's no need or they don't want the fight...they will be tuned in as always anyway.

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                    • brettWall
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                      #30
                      "Fight is not appealing..."
                      Too bad Haney wants to be compensated more in the rematch.

                      Devin Haney wants to claw back what he believes he willingly forfeited in his fight with George Kambosos Jr. for all four lightweight titles. Haney, who defeate


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