Espinoza admits to putting kibosh on Charlo vs Munguia

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  • War Room
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    #21
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    A friend offered me 5 to 1 odds on Horn. I knew it was the last fight on Pacquiao's Top Rank contract and that winning a decision would be impossible since he wasn't re-signing with Top Rank. Same thing happened in the Bradley fight when Pacquiao tried to leave Top Rank.
    I'm fully aware of the re-signing fiasco's with Top Rank.

    Wow, so like your friend gave you equal to or better odds than Horn was getting anywhere for a wager that would break all window limits (600k)? Every private entity I've ever known or heard about gives you less odds to handle the over the limit wagers, lucky you.

    So how much did you make on Pacquiao vs Bradley 1 then?

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      #22
      Originally posted by War Room
      • PBC's Andy Ruiz Jr. challenged Anthony Joshua for the heavyweight title on DAZN
      • PBC's Shawn Porter challenged Terence Crawford for a welterweight title on ESPN+ pay-per-view
      Munguia had the WBO and Charlo had the WBC so it's not like Munguia isn't a champ. They both had belts. PBC wanted PPV, but ended up not doing PPV for Munguia replacement Montiel.

      Looks like PBC and Showtime were at fault here. Mungia was signed and agreed to terms, PBC has worked with others in the past on PPV's and specifically DAZN.

      Charlo vs Montiel did 333,000 viewers lol. Doesn't look to me that GBP is/was the problem here.
      Munguia isn't a champ. He doesn't have the WBO title at 160, never has. This wasn't a unification fight, it was a champ offering a challenger a good deal and getting turned down.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Clegg

        Munguia isn't a champ. He doesn't have the WBO title at 160, never has. This wasn't a unification fight, it was a champ offering a challenger a good deal and getting turned down.
        I misread boxrec regarding Mungo and his 160 WBO Inter-Continental trinket he picked up in 2020.

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          #24
          Who is MONguia? His name is Munguia Mr Espinoza.

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            #25
            Originally posted by War Room
            I'm fully aware of the re-signing fiasco's with Top Rank.

            Wow, so like your friend gave you equal to or better odds than Horn was getting anywhere for a wager that would break all window limits (600k)? Every private entity I've ever known or heard about gives you less odds to handle the over the limit wagers, lucky you.
            He gave me equal odds. Horn was +500 when we made the bet. He prefers high stakes and the bet was his idea, so he wasn't going to ask for better odds, especially when it was chump change to him and a lot of money to me.


            So how much did you make on Pacquiao vs Bradley 1 then?
            $1,625,000

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              #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

              He gave me equal odds. Horn was +500 when we made the bet. He prefers high stakes and the bet was his idea, so he wasn't going to ask for better odds, especially when it was chump change to him and a lot of money to me.

              $1,625,000
              $3 million is chump change to your friend?

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                #27
                Originally posted by War Room
                • PBC's Andy Ruiz Jr. challenged Anthony Joshua for the heavyweight title on DAZN
                • PBC's Shawn Porter challenged Terence Crawford for a welterweight title on ESPN+ pay-per-view
                Munguia had the WBO and Charlo had the WBC so it's not like Munguia isn't a champ. They both had belts. PBC wanted PPV, but ended up not doing PPV for Munguia replacement Montiel.

                Looks like PBC and Showtime were at fault here. Mungia was signed and agreed to terms, PBC has worked with others in the past on PPV's and specifically DAZN.

                Charlo vs Montiel did 333,000 viewers lol. Doesn't look to me that GBP is/was the problem here.
                - - What U squallin' about now?

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                  #28
                  The owner of GBP's name is Oscar De La Hoya, not Stephen Espinoza.

                  The fight was a done deal until Oscar blew it up. Espinoza had nothing to do with it.

                  Joint-promoter PPVs are not a thing.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BreWall
                    What is the point?

                    Plenty of good fights to choose from in Charlo's own side of the street. Very easy to make.

                    Benavidez, Plant, Lara, Adames.
                    Charlo isn't fighting plant or benavidez. He's content with struggling against montiel type fighters after his gift against korobov. Maybe Lara. Maybe. Adames? Who tf wanna see that?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hhh1200

                      haymon reportedly has 200 fighters under contract with not enough dates so who has the most fighters to move across networks to get fight dates?
                      Lmao I remember when haymon was starting pbc and signing fighters like crazy and all the fangirls were hyping it up in boxing it's about quality not quantity tf is the point of having all those fighters and only about 1/10 are known?

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