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  • #41
    Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

    Post makes no sense
    If he had Officials & Judges on his side
    Why didn't AJ get the Victory in the fight then?
    #SooDumb
    It does make sense if you don't see the world in black & white. Ever heard of something called the gray area?

    Sorry, let me rephrase that for 110% precision.

    Instead of Sounds like he knew he's had officials and judges on his side, shady! =---> I meant to say Sounds like he thought he had officials and judges on his side, shady!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by P to the J View Post

      Exactly. Been telling everyone that caution’s reigned supreme for AJ since pre-Ruiz, as you have provided evidence of here.

      For some reason, though, few round here are able to have an original thought. AJ’s caution started post-Klitschko, not just when everyone saw him get beat down against Ruiz.


      A.J had enough 'Fights of the year'. He is no Arturo Gatti, but Robert Garcia don't want to hear dat sht. I'm listening to Childish Gambino - Redbone, by the way -- must stay woke!
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      • #43
        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

        A.J when landing 15/20 power shots in any round from rounds 1 to 6 has always stopped his opponents maybe except Povetkin he didn’t hit him much but his work rate was near 40 punches per round and it was over in 7 rnds . Same against Parker he didn’t land many power shots but he was also keeping it at the same gear . That went 12 with very limited power shots thrown .

        Now that’s just one round if he lands 20 power shots , if he does it to Usyk early he already has a probability rate of 90% of winning which I take into account he did hit Usyk over 20 times with power shots but these were later rounds . His power shot total was awful in that one and if he starts early it is going to be a bad night for Usyk unless he catches A.J which is slim chance here if A.J is throwing firepower at him because no one’s done it and it wasn’t like Usyk was beating A.J from corner to corner .

        A.J doubled his punch out put against Ruiz in the rematch and it wasn’t close with limited power punching , if he maintains a 30 punch plus count every round with enough power shots exceeding 15 a round on average I think this is going to be a stoppage win for A.J he has 12 rounds to land a certain amount of power shots to either stop or hurt Usyk enough fir the win it’s just a matter of simple out put he needs to get him the results.

        Smart money is on A.J . He has the easier task .

        Most liked the Fury vs Wilder fight better because it was more drama , Usyk is harder to deal with so it was a chess match like two guys fencing . I don’t know I watched the A.J fight more just because there’s more to take in little things you miss so I lost count on that one but I’d say the average fan will like Fury more they aren’t interested in dissecting fights they want action .

        I still got Usyk for this one, mind, and I’ll have him for Fury, Wilder, Joyce and any other HW he faces. My 2018 prediction was a clean sweep of this division and undisputed, so we’ll see
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        • #44
          Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool View Post

          Klitschko got it back against Joshua Ironically, its just that he was 41 years old and didn't have the stamina to go with it.

          Joshua needs to have the same mentality klitschko had in their fight.
          I don’t know Wlad lost it anyway, he was bamboozled by Fury but he tried his best to put it on fury in the 12th round of that fight. so even in the previous fight to Joshua he was willing to bite down late on, he just wasn’t good enough to beat Fury, that’s all it was.

          AJ was losing v Usyk in a similar fashion and didn’t come out swinging at the end, he accepted defeat easily, Maybe he felt he was going to get ironed out if he tried but that’s the gamble you take because you are losing anyway. Unless he thought he was getting a gift but a real fighter will bite down anyway

          Thats the difference between the two.

          even aside from specific fights, I don’t think you can have toughness drilled into you by a trainer that is trying to convince you that you are tough. That’s what it sounds like.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

            I don’t know Wlad lost it anyway, he was bamboozled by Fury but he tried his best to put it on fury in the 12th round of that fight. so even in the previous fight to Joshua he was willing to bite down late on, he just wasn’t good enough to beat Fury, that’s all it was.

            AJ was losing v Usyk in a similar fashion and didn’t come out swinging at the end, he accepted defeat easily, Maybe he felt he was going to get ironed out if he tried but that’s the gamble you take because you are losing anyway. Unless he thought he was getting a gift but a real fighter will bite down anyway

            Thats the difference between the two.

            even aside from specific fights, I don’t think you can have toughness drilled into you by a trainer that is trying to convince you that you are tough. That’s what it sounds like.
            It was a injustice, that Kiltschko a champion for close to a decade was? Denied a opportunity to rematch Tyson Fury 'Unfortunately due to Fury's situation'.

            Tyson Fury beat Wladimir Kiltschko. But lets not sit here and pretend that he beat him to the point of demoralization.

            Tyson Fury merely bamboozled and if I was to describe his performance 'He stole the fight with trickery'.

            Wladimir Kiltschko was not beaten up, and actually backed Tyson Fury up all night. For me it was not a 100% conclusive win.

            Anthony Joshua has a more conclusive win over Wladimir Kiltschko. Due to how aggressively he fought, and the damage he inflicted.

            Joshua's traits help him excel at the long game. I think that is why acutely, he can give the impressive of accepting a loss too easily. Or why he struggles to adapt in fights at the speed of some of the past great fighters.

            But make no doubt about it, and you know this mate. Joshua has near psychopathic work ethic, his ability to learn is not quite normal. None of his achievements to date are normal. Winning the Olympic Title, or even just making it to the Olympics after starting boxing late, or facing Wladimir Kiltschko in his 19th fight and being made favorite in front of 80'000 home spectators 'And Millions more via satellite television'.

            If any fighter can overcome his lack of abilities and win in a rematch against Usyk 'Anthony Joshua is that type of fighter'.

            Note: I will admit that this fight vs Usyk would be a straight forward fight for Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiiltschko. In the sense that, they can all fight a good solid big man styled fight 'Whether they would win or not, I won't say just right about now'. Joshua is having to fight Usyk as if he was not a super heavyweight, which is why this match up is very interesting.

            *Kiltschko was also in better condition for Joshua. He stated this himself being a man of science. And all the evidence is there to prove that he was in better condition. Three back to back training camps, visual evidence and the weigh in etc.

            Tyson Fury is retired anyway, I am not sure why Fury's hardcore fans speak as if he is not retired.


            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-21-2022, 07:08 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              It was a injustice, that Kiltschko a champion for close to a decade was? Denied a opportunity to rematch Tyson Fury 'Unfortunately due to Fury's situation'.

              Tyson Fury beat Wladimir Kiltschko. But lets not sit here and pretend that he beat him to the point of demoralization.

              Tyson Fury merely bamboozled and if I was to describe his performance 'He stole the fight with trickery'.

              Wladimir Kiltschko was not beaten up, and actually backed Tyson Fury up all night. For me it was not a 100% conclusive win.

              Anthony Joshua has a more conclusive win over Wladimir Kiltschko. Due to how aggressively he fought, and the damage he inflicted.

              Joshua's traits help him excel at the long game. I think that is why acutely, he can give the impressive of accepting a loss too easily. Or why he struggles to adapt in fights at the speed of some of the past great fighters.

              But make no doubt about it, and you know this mate. Joshua has near psychopathic work ethic, his ability to learn is not quite normal. None of his achievements to date are normal. Winning the Olympic Title, or even just making it to the Olympics after starting boxing late, or facing Wladimir Kiltschko in his 19th fight and being made favorite in front of 80'000 home spectators 'And Millions more via satellite television'.

              If any fighter can overcome his lack of abilities and win in a rematch against Usyk 'Anthony Joshua is that type of fighter'.

              Note: I will admit that this fight vs Usyk would be a straight forward fight for Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiiltschko. In the sense that, they can all fight a good solid big man styled fight 'Whether they would win or not, I won't say just right about now'. Joshua is having to fight Usyk as if he was not a super heavyweight, which is why this match up is very interesting.

              *Kiltschko was also in better condition for Joshua. He stated this himself being a man of science. And all the evidence is there to prove that he was in better condition. Three back to back training camps, visual evidence and the weigh in etc.

              Tyson Fury is retired anyway, I am not sure why Fury's hardcore fans speak as if he is not retired.

              Fury isn't retired. He still has his licence and his WBC title and he's still in the gym training every day.

              Yes, he says he's retired, but how many times have we heard that from him and then seen him come back and fight again?

              Last time he said he was retired was after the 3rd Wilder fight, then he came back looking better than ever against Whyte.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                Fury isn't retired. He still has his licence and his WBC title and he's still in the gym training every day.

                Yes, he says he's retired, but how many times have we heard that from him and then seen him come back and fight again?

                Last time he said he was retired was after the 3rd Wilder fight, then he came back looking better than ever against Whyte.
                He is retired mate. I doubt he has been training everyday, or at the intensity he should be training at etc.

                I don't think he was looking even better vs Whyte. Whyte is a world class fighter, but is a few levels below Fury.

                I just think if Fury is to come back? He has made a mistake with his recent semi-retirement.



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                • #48
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                  A.J when landing 15/20 power shots in any round from rounds 1 to 6 has always stopped his opponents maybe except Povetkin he didn’t hit him much but his work rate was near 40 punches per round and it was over in 7 rnds . Same against Parker he didn’t land many power shots but he was also keeping it at the same gear . That went 12 with very limited power shots thrown .

                  Now that’s just one round if he lands 20 power shots , if he does it to Usyk early he already has a probability rate of 90% of winning which I take into account he did hit Usyk over 20 times with power shots but these were later rounds . His power shot total was awful in that one and if he starts early it is going to be a bad night for Usyk unless he catches A.J which is slim chance here if A.J is throwing firepower at him because no one’s done it and it wasn’t like Usyk was beating A.J from corner to corner .

                  A.J doubled his punch out put against Ruiz in the rematch and it wasn’t close with limited power punching , if he maintains a 30 punch plus count every round with enough power shots exceeding 15 a round on average I think this is going to be a stoppage win for A.J he has 12 rounds to land a certain amount of power shots to either stop or hurt Usyk enough fir the win it’s just a matter of simple out put he needs to get him the results.

                  Smart money is on A.J . He has the easier task .

                  Most liked the Fury vs Wilder fight better because it was more drama , Usyk is harder to deal with so it was a chess match like two guys fencing . I don’t know I watched the A.J fight more just because there’s more to take in little things you miss so I lost count on that one but I’d say the average fan will like Fury more they aren’t interested in dissecting fights they want action .
                  How is the smart money on the guy with inferior boxing skill who lost?

                  Even if you like Joshua and think he has a way to win (he does) this is just dumb.

                  You always have the dumbest ****ing takes on here I swear lol

                  Everyone of your comments is just ****** fanboy riddled bull**** from someone who knows **** all about boxing. Don't even sit there and pretend as if UsykJoshua was a better fight. Was the skill showcased better? Obviously. But that was due to Usyk. Joshua took his foot off the gas in the final rounds for whatever the **** reason and it wasn't particularly competitive even if you're generous in giving rounds to Joshua.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
                    Grandpa knows what he's doing with AJ. Aggression was missing, but AJ must reach a high level of conditioning for this fight, and also his skills need to improve a great deal, defense needs to tighten up. Usyk will be stronger maybe faster and in even better shape than last time. And he will be sharper and maybe more aggressive, having just returned from war. He won't be scared of Joshua one bit
                    Yeah, I definitely think we're going to get a way more competitive fight.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                      A.J hardly threw any power punches in the first half of the Usyk fight averaged about 5/7 power punches , against Pulev he threw 44 in round 3 and landed almost half of them and had Pulev looking to jump out of the ring . People are going to see when you use numbers in boxing it comes into play , A.J throws more punches and power punches then Fury who most think has better stamina . Maybe over a course of a fight with a lower pace but A.J has already kept up with Usyk fir 12 rounds and threw more punches there as well , I think Usyk is in big trouble because I actually looked at the numbers going into this .
                      To throw power punches you need to have faith in your chin and a good defence, because power shots come off of the back of combos most of the time....in fact pretty much all the time considering Joshua is a combination puncher. Logic would suggest he doesn't feel comfortable throwing them because he gets caught.

                      Jesus, your takes are really laughable. Your silly ass literally had a cursory read of BoxRec/compubox and thinks he did something

                      Of course he hit Pulev at will, Pulev is a slow as **** middling heavyweight who struggles against gatekeepers. A little different trying to tee off against guys like Fury/Usyk.
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