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  • #51
    He Passed on signing with several major promoters and wonders why he is out of the loop. You are smarter than that Regis. Look at the mess Crawford is in after dropping Bob. He'd actually have a fight date by now 8 months later.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by paulf View Post

      Progrias was going to be fighting Mikey Garcia on DAZN, then Mikey lost to the unknown Spaniard.
      It didn't happen though. And, neither were Matchroom fighters, so they didn't put a lot of effort into it for that reason. Garcia has expensive demands. Hearn can't be held accountable, for not giving opportunities, to fighters that are not contracted to him. Especially when he has lots of other committed fighters to take care of. Your not criticizing Haymon, for not following through on originally building Prograis hopes up of a Barrios fight. I'm not suggesting you should either. But you can't be selective when it suits.

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      • #53
        The boxing mafia strikes again. Bud can tell you a thing or two about it, Regis.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

          Why do you have to play in the NBA to win the NBA championship?
          I dont know where your going here... As much as I respect the way promoters have been part of certain venues, boxing right now stinks with respect to the top promoters, they are not interested in making fights happen that people want to see. I do respect that you may have an angle on that aspect as a promoter... But hard to see why Prograis should have to appease Arum, hearn, whomever when he is obviously one of the more talented guys at the weight.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

            And the best chess player in the world might be the homeless guy down the street from you.

            If you want to become the mandatory to the championship of the world, you typically first have to win the championship of your area. He's very highly rated despite not fighting often and not winning any secondary titles to move higher in the rankings.

            It's like refusing to play in the AFC championship and then complaining when you're not in the Super Bowl.
            The problem with your analogy is thinking that boxing places the two best within a division to fight for a vacant meaningless trinket. At least with the divisional champions in football we know at 100% they are the two best facing each other. For boxing vacant titles and who fights for them is a laughingstock, a scam and corrupt. The org picks its chosen one, up ranks a complete scrub and pits the two against each other. The fight is over before it even hits the ring

            Belts are absolutely meaningless
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            • #56
              Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

              It didn't happen though. And, neither were Matchroom fighters, so they didn't put a lot of effort into it for that reason. Garcia has expensive demands. Hearn can't be held accountable, for not giving opportunities, to fighters that are not contracted to him. Especially when he has lots of other committed fighters to take care of. Your not criticizing Haymon, for not following through on originally building Prograis hopes up of a Barrios fight. I'm not suggesting you should either. But you can't be selective when it suits.
              What is wrong with you.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                He fights once a year. He doesn't hold any international or intercontinental titles. He doesn't hold any gold or silver titles. He hasn't fought any eliminators. Why exactly would he be fighting for a vacant title?
                Same reason Crawford was able to fight for vacants without holding any of what you mentioned.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                  It was. That's why he's been moved up to 3rd.
                  Why don’t you express your knowledge on the almighty WBC IBF WBA! Lol

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                    I dont know where your going here... As much as I respect the way promoters have been part of certain venues, boxing right now stinks with respect to the top promoters, they are not interested in making fights happen that people want to see. I do respect that you may have an angle on that aspect as a promoter... But hard to see why Prograis should have to appease Arum, hearn, whomever when he is obviously one of the more talented guys at the weight.
                    Prograis signed with an inexperienced promoter that didn't know what it was doing.

                    Unless you're going to name names of which organization Prograis should be top two in and why, then it's not fair to criticize the organizations for not having him in the top two. He's barely been fighting, he's not the champion of anything, why would he be in the top two?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
                      The problem with your analogy is thinking that boxing places the two best within a division to fight for a vacant meaningless trinket. At least with the divisional champions in football we know at 100% they are the two best facing each other. For boxing vacant titles and who fights for them is a laughingstock, a scam and corrupt. The org picks its chosen one, up ranks a complete scrub and pits the two against each other. The fight is over before it even hits the ring
                      Jose Zepeda is the WBC Silver world champion and therefore the #1 contender for the WBC world championship.

                      #2 contender Jose Carlos Ramirez is the former WBC world champion, having lost the title to Taylor by razor thin decision.

                      They are absolutely deserving of being the top two WBC contenders and therefore the rightful challengers for the vacant WBC world championship since Taylor is unwilling to defend against his mandatory challenger.

                      Regis Prograis is rated #3 despite never having held the WBC world championship and not having bothered to pursue the silver or international title in pursuit of a top two rating.

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