Comments Thread For: Canelo-Golovkin Trilogy Clash Lands At T-Mobile Arena, Site Of Their Previous Two Fights

[aboutfkntime]

By the way, it's hilarious that you cite so many comments from me, and reading them back, nearly all of them, even in your words, sound extremely reasonable.

You dunked on yourself with so many of those comments lol.

For example, above, you demonstrate that you have no idea how statistics and probability works!! lol

Life tip - if you don't really understand something, just stay silent. It's way better in the long run.

those comments are so ridiculous that they are laughable

I have never seen so much ignorance and stupidity on one page.... not here, and not anywhere else either

this garbage is utter fanboy foolery LMAO




thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....

I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918

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thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but will not say which one

I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10

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thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....

never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905

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thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

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thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins

Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20

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thinks that Lemieux, Murray... are the same level as Canelo/Jacobs

Lemieux, Murray pretty clearly around the level of SD Canelo Jacobs...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309

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thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....

Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16

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creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....

Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903

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proves that he has no idea how to score a professional boxing match...

I'll also tell you how I score them...generally give a 'full point' for a good hard clean shot...and a 'half point' for a punch that is a scoring blow but isn't necessarily super hard or clean.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...3#post20372893

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thinks Golovkin's resume is just as good as Pernell Whitaker's resume

resume wise it is interesting that one dominated with decision wins over good fighters, and one with KO wins over good fighters...both having the same number of wins, and about the same number of good wins.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=843266

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thinks that Daniel Geale is a better fighter than Jeff Fenech

I would even say Geale in his prime was a better fighter than Fenech
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843266&page=2

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has NO idea what qualifies a fighter for greatness

I think you are once again another on here who fails to realize that what makes 99% of great fighters great - is beating 9/10 or even 10/10 of the good solid pros they faced...most greats only face 1-2 or maybe 3 other greats in their primes/best weights, and usually they have mixed results there.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843266&page=2

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thinks that Golovkin is the same level as Duran

GGG is comparable to Duran levels-wise for me...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843918&page=4

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[aboutfkntime]

I see some GGGTards still salty. Ggg did NOT win the 2nd fight. If you truly believe that then go collect that $$$$ from some bookies and when they KYTFO!!! I'm gonna laugh my ass off!!!

Jabkin did not win the first fight either






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[aboutfkntime]

What6 was your score before and after watching it again? Or at least tell me how you scored it???

only shltty casual fans think that Jabkin won the rematch

Canelo beat the Mexican out of him






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[Mr Giggles]

Is it safe to say people backing ggg know nothing about boxing. He has literally a zero chance of winning. Zero. Not even a lucky punch. Cause canelo has a rock iron chin, and a fighter as skilled as him is never going to get KOd like that, no matter how much you dream of it happening.

And ggg fought his whole time at 160, this is his first fight at 168, meanwhile canelo just fought at 175 and didn’t look hurt once, he took those punches with ease, oh and he’s also cleaned up the 168 division, took them all out with EASE, one after the other, didn’t break sweat.

Watching gggs last fight, he was getting hurt to the body, you can see it. And guess who is an EXPERT at hitting to the body, you guessed it. Everywhere in this fight is advantages for canelo, there is no advantages for ggg.

Just cause ggg stared at canelo for a few seconds in a face off , don’t mean anything, he’s getting brutally beaten and I’m not watching a living legend going out like this!

[Superbee]

With that thing happening, putting Bivol/Beterbiev further down the road makes sense ... They wouldn't be able to compete marketing wise ...

[Boxing-1013]

Jabkin did not win the first fight either






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You have 0 clue when it comes to GGG and his fights. ZERO

[Boxing-1013]

Is it safe to say people backing ggg know nothing about boxing. He has literally a zero chance of winning. Zero. Not even a lucky punch. Cause canelo has a rock iron chin, and a fighter as skilled as him is never going to get KOd like that, no matter how much you dream of it happening.

And ggg fought his whole time at 160, this is his first fight at 168, meanwhile canelo just fought at 175 and didn’t look hurt once, he took those punches with ease, oh and he’s also cleaned up the 168 division, took them all out with EASE, one after the other, didn’t break sweat.

Watching gggs last fight, he was getting hurt to the body, you can see it. And guess who is an EXPERT at hitting to the body, you guessed it. Everywhere in this fight is advantages for canelo, there is no advantages for ggg.

Just cause ggg stared at canelo for a few seconds in a face off , don’t mean anything, he’s getting brutally beaten and I’m not watching a living legend going out like this!

Murata was pushing a pace that Canelo can't/won't push, And Murata ended up paying for it in the end. Also, I've seen most of GGG's fights. They tend to follow a similar pattern. Early on he outlands his opponents by a heavy margin, but he still is open to some shots and counters, and people tend to remember those more than the volume work GGG does.

Which in a way makes sense - you are always surprised a bit when the favorite takes a shot or two even if he is winning the rounds.

I didn't see any excess vulnerability vs Murata really - Murata pushed a heavy pace, but with that pace, he took a ton of damage in those first 4 rounds and was basically a punching bag after that. Canelo won't fight that way.

And again I didn't see any serious issues there for GGG that were any different really than some shots he took vs Derevy, or Brook, or Jacobs, or Monroe. GGG isn't too hard to hit, partially because he is so active and pushes a fast pace and throws a ton of punches.

Canelo should be favored legitimately, but it's not unheard of to think that GGG can outwork him again like he did the first 2 times. It will be a fight of Canelo's counterpunching vs GGG's activity. Whoever does a better job there will win. Well, should win. GGG could 'win' but still lose on the official cards.

[aboutfkntime]

You have 0 clue when it comes to GGG and his fights. ZERO

says the fanboy who has no idea whatsoever how to score a professional boxing match



THIS, is the ONLY official scoring criteria.....

* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* ring generalship
* defence



THIS, is the dumb shlt you said...

I'll also tell you how I score them...generally give a 'full point' for a good hard clean shot...and a 'half point' for a punch that is a scoring blow but isn't necessarily super hard or clean.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...3#post20372893

not quite the same, is it ?






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[GelfSara]

Have you ever seen a replay of the rematch? If you haven't I recommend you do so, but take out pencil and paper and score it. I was also swayed by the HBO crew's biased commentating and thought that Canelo won the 2nd one when I watched it live. I used to argue with other people about it, but then I rewatched it a while back and I couldn't give Canelo any better than a draw. I would love to see your scorecard for the rematch if you really thought Canelo won it clean. In my view, GGG won the first one wide and won a close decision in the second. Canelo certainly did better and fought more on the front foot in that second fight, but GGG adjusted and did more IMO. As far as the 3rd fight goes, I think that's going to be the best one yet. GGG is special, so he's not going to just roll over, even at 40.

See https://youtu.be/KY46PsekgoU and https://youtu.be/yHClg4dqMFk .