Mayweather-Marquez: The Pre-Fight Report Card

[gqjohnb]

I disagree with the article marquez looked more lean and muscular than he did in the diaz fight I think he trained well

[xbreland]

Big mouth, ****y and disrespectful. But there's just no one around to match his raw talent. Nope not even Paq Man. He tires you out with his defense, if you sit back he takes you a part. RAW TALENT... you just can't teach that.

[Blue Heffner]

Big mouth, ****y and disrespectful. But there's just no one around to match his raw talent. Nope not even Paq Man. He tires you out with his defense, if you sit back he takes you a part. RAW TALENT... you just can't teach that.

co-sign, too true.

[Al Haymon]

I hate it when Cliff is right, only when he goes against my favorite fighter. but truth is, Marquez just isn't big enough to fight an elite welterweight. And that's what Floyd is plain and simple. My heart wants Marquez to win badly, but my boxing brain whimpers out Mayweather's name through the muffled cries of disappointment.

Attack,

I don't see it as necessarily an issue of solely size. If size was the deciding factor, then please explain Pacquiao's annihilation of Delahoya? Every Pac fan that I've spoken with insisrs that Oscar was not depleted that night. That manny was simply the better man. Cool, I accept that. Similarly, FMJ beat a much bigger Oscar. SRL beat bigger guys.



Marquez needs to simply be "the better man". This fight is a test of skills. Ability will win this fight.

[project xxx1]

So are people going to feel the same when and if Mayweather gets in the ring with Pac?

Are the same people "wanting" the fight to happen going to say after the fact that Pac was too small too and it wasn't fair and that Mayweather always picks on the smaller guys and that Pac never had a chance, and that Mayweather had all the advantages etc etc etc????

I don't see Pac getting passed Cotto but thats beside the point. Most people are so hyped for a Mayweather Pac fight that they are just assuming Pac will get by Cotto. IMO no matter what people say Pac is no REAL WW and neither is JMM. Neither of them proved anything at this weight. The DESTROYED Hatton and the "OLD" Zombie De La Hoya can not be factored in.....

Just because Pac "looked good" vs them does NOT mean he is proven. Jones looked good at HW vs Ruiz, did that make him a legit HW??? Hell no he would have been crushed VS TOP HW's. The same goes for Pac. Cotto is Pac's TRUE test. So people that say Mayweather vs JMM is not OK but Mayweather vs Pac is, are wrong.

Its not hate. I understand why people hate Mayweather. I just don't understand why people think its OK for Mayweather to fight Pac but NOT JMM. I don't think he should be fighting either. EVERYONE always complains about him fighting smaller foes. Well WTF is Pac? He's no REAL WW or he would be fighting Cotto at the WW limit. It should be Mayweather vs Cotto/Mosley. I know money talks and that's Mayweather Pac but in the end it will be a complete circle of people crying about weight and him fighting the smaller guys all over again. It never ends.

Pac is GREAT and one of my favorites but he is not Mayweather GREAT. Mayweather/Cotto/Mosley all beat little man Pac. The great PACMAN should be fighting JMM for the third time, just as Jones should be fighting Hopkins for a second time. Or Lewis fighting Klit for the second time (if we had a time machine) and the list could go on I guess but hey that's just me. I'm a fan of Mayweather's I want a BIG WW in there so people will STFU already. When Mayweather beats Pac (if they fight) it will only add fuel to the fire.... people will still not be satisfied. Probably never will be... so who cares really..

agree with you 100 percent,good post

[Al Haymon]

Its not hate. I understand why people hate Mayweather. I just don't understand why people think its OK for Mayweather to fight Pac but NOT JMM. I don't think he should be fighting either. EVERYONE always complains about him fighting smaller foes. Well WTF is Pac? He's no REAL WW or he would be fighting Cotto at the WW limit. It should be Mayweather vs Cotto/Mosley. I know money talks and that's Mayweather Pac but in the end it will be a complete circle of people crying about weight and him fighting the smaller guys all over again. It never ends.
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Wess is dropping some truth right there!!!

That is like saying that Holyfield can fight Tyson, But Lennox Lewis shouldn't.

[crold1]

So are people going to feel the same when and if Mayweather gets in the ring with Pac?

Are the same people "wanting" the fight to happen going to say after the fact that Pac was too small too and it wasn't fair and that Mayweather always picks on the smaller guys and that Pac never had a chance, and that Mayweather had all the advantages etc etc etc????

I don't see Pac getting passed Cotto but thats beside the point. Most people are so hyped for a Mayweather Pac fight that they are just assuming Pac will get by Cotto. IMO no matter what people say Pac is no REAL WW and neither is JMM. Neither of them proved anything at this weight. The DESTROYED Hatton and the "OLD" Zombie De La Hoya can not be factored in.....

Just because Pac "looked good" vs them does NOT mean he is proven. Jones looked good at HW vs Ruiz, did that make him a legit HW??? Hell no he would have been crushed VS TOP HW's. The same goes for Pac. Cotto is Pac's TRUE test. So people that say Mayweather vs JMM is not OK but Mayweather vs Pac is, are wrong.

Its not hate. I understand why people hate Mayweather. I just don't understand why people think its OK for Mayweather to fight Pac but NOT JMM. I don't think he should be fighting either. EVERYONE always complains about him fighting smaller foes. Well WTF is Pac? He's no REAL WW or he would be fighting Cotto at the WW limit. It should be Mayweather vs Cotto/Mosley. I know money talks and that's Mayweather Pac but in the end it will be a complete circle of people crying about weight and him fighting the smaller guys all over again. It never ends.

Pac is GREAT and one of my favorites but he is not Mayweather GREAT. Mayweather/Cotto/Mosley all beat little man Pac. The great PACMAN should be fighting JMM for the third time, just as Jones should be fighting Hopkins for a second time. Or Lewis fighting Klit for the second time (if we had a time machine) and the list could go on I guess but hey that's just me. I'm a fan of Mayweather's I want a BIG WW in there so people will STFU already. When Mayweather beats Pac (if they fight) it will only add fuel to the fire.... people will still not be satisfied. Probably never will be... so who cares really..

Different matches play different. Pac is a completely different fighter than Marquez. This fight, size is a matter before the fight IMO. I do no think it would be with Pac because you're matching the BEST offensive and BEST defensive fighters in the world. If I write it as an even match pre-fight (if it happens), and then ***** on size after a May win, feel free to call me full of ish.

[Jim Jeffries]

Attack,

I don't see it as necessarily an issue of solely size. If size was the deciding factor, then please explain Pacquiao's annihilation of Delahoya? Every Pac fan that I've spoken with insisrs that Oscar was not depleted that night. That manny was simply the better man. Cool, I accept that. Similarly, FMJ beat a much bigger Oscar. SRL beat bigger guys.



Marquez needs to simply be "the better man". This fight is a test of skills. Ability will win this fight.

Uh, because Pac actually outweighed DLH in the ring.

Wess is dropping some truth right there!!!

That is like saying that Holyfield can fight Tyson, But Lennox Lewis shouldn't.

I'm trying my best to make sense of this statement, can you help me out here?

[THEGRANDSLAM]

PBF beats Pacquiao, Floyd is a masterful boxer and I think Mayweather will eat him. I like Manny but don't like how Ring sucks him off every issue. I don't recall them sucking off Floyd like that. Anyway Floyd was piss poor not making weight, I think his camp is a bit too comfortable though, does he really get pushed that hard? I dunno cos I'm not there but I can't imagine Uncle Roger breaking Floyds balls too much.

Anyway Floyd by stoppage.

[WESS]

Different matches play different. Pac is a completely different fighter than Marquez. This fight, size is a matter before the fight IMO. I do no think it would be with Pac because you're matching the BEST offensive and BEST defensive fighters in the world. If I write it as an even match pre-fight (if it happens), and then ***** on size after a May win, feel free to call me full of ish.

I see what your saying but the true test is vs Cotto at a so called "WW" match. How he handles that fight will tell if he can fight the bigger guys. As I have said before, Jones looked GREAT fighting at HW vs Ruiz. Does that make him right to keep fighting at HW? lol no. he looked good doing but it wasn't vs the TOP HW's. De La Hoya was on an IVY and Hatton no chance at all. Neither where mentally and physically healthy in the fights. Of course the number 1 P4P fighter Manny pacman would look good. He had all the advantages. just as Mayweather does yet gets ****ted on for. Its cool. I see Mayweather vs Cotto and Pac vs JMM III next year.