Mayweather-Marquez: The Pre-Fight Report Card

[LilGizmo562]

I hate it when Cliff is right, only when he goes against my favorite fighter. but truth is, Marquez just isn't big enough to fight an elite welterweight. And that's what Floyd is plain and simple. My heart wants Marquez to win badly, but my boxing brain whimpers out Mayweather's name through the muffled cries of disappointment.

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[crold1]

I see what your saying but the true test is vs Cotto at a so called "WW" match. How he handles that fight will tell if he can fight the bigger guys. As I have said before, Jones looked GREAT fighting at HW vs Ruiz. Does that make him right to keep fighting at HW? lol no. he looked good doing but it wasn't vs the TOP HW's. De La Hoya was on an IVY and Hatton no chance at all. Neither where mentally and physically healthy in the fights. Of course the number 1 P4P fighter Manny pacman would look good. He had all the advantages. just as Mayweather does yet gets ****ted on for. Its cool. I see Mayweather vs Cotto and Pac vs JMM III next year.

Co-SIGN. I am not sure, at all, Pac can handle a real live Welter. Cotto is getting grief for struggling with Joshua Clottey, but, seriously, Clottey is good. Real good. I wouldn't neccesarily pick Pac to beat Clottey so why would I hold it against Cotto to struggle with him?

I think there is a good chance that 2009 will end with fans calling for the same fight's they wanted at the end of 07: May vs. Mosley or Cotto. In other words, calling for real Welterweight fights.

[edgarg]

So are people going to feel the same when and if Mayweather gets in the ring with Pac?

Are the same people "wanting" the fight to happen going to say after the fact that Pac was too small too and it wasn't fair and that Mayweather always picks on the smaller guys and that Pac never had a chance, and that Mayweather had all the advantages etc etc etc????

I don't see Pac getting passed Cotto but thats beside the point. Most people are so hyped for a Mayweather Pac fight that they are just assuming Pac will get by Cotto. IMO no matter what people say Pac is no REAL WW and neither is JMM. Neither of them proved anything at this weight. The DESTROYED Hatton and the "OLD" Zombie De La Hoya can not be factored in.....

Just because Pac "looked good" vs them does NOT mean he is proven. Jones looked good at HW vs Ruiz, did that make him a legit HW??? Hell no he would have been crushed VS TOP HW's. The same goes for Pac. Cotto is Pac's TRUE test. So people that say Mayweather vs JMM is not OK but Mayweather vs Pac is, are wrong.

Its not hate. I understand why people hate Mayweather. I just don't understand why people think its OK for Mayweather to fight Pac but NOT JMM. I don't think he should be fighting either. EVERYONE always complains about him fighting smaller foes. Well WTF is Pac? He's no REAL WW or he would be fighting Cotto at the WW limit. It should be Mayweather vs Cotto/Mosley. I know money talks and that's Mayweather Pac but in the end it will be a complete circle of people crying about weight and him fighting the smaller guys all over again. It never ends.

Pac is GREAT and one of my favorites but he is not Mayweather GREAT. Mayweather/Cotto/Mosley all beat little man Pac. The great PACMAN should be fighting JMM for the third time, just as Jones should be fighting Hopkins for a second time. Or Lewis fighting Klit for the second time (if we had a time machine) and the list could go on I guess but hey that's just me. I'm a fan of Mayweather's I want a BIG WW in there so people will STFU already. When Mayweather beats Pac (if they fight) it will only add fuel to the fire.... people will still not be satisfied. Probably never will be... so who cares really..

Manny has shown himself to be able to handle a heavier "out of his class" weight division, and do it pretty well. Marquez really hasn't-so far. In that respect they can't be compared to each other.

I haven't heard anyone yet, who KNOWS boxing, who says that
Oscar, at 143 lbs was even a 50% of his well remembered form. He must have been drained as dry as an old riverbed, and because of the need for precious time to PROPERLY re-hydrate, which he didn't have, was basically a sitting duck for Manny, who could treat him like a training session on the heavy bag.

We have to remember that Mayweather has grown into a legit welterweight for a number of years already. Against that, Marquez, only less tha a handful of fights ago, he was making 130 lbs wityh no problem, and just a little further back was a true featherweight, where, incidentally he has spent most of his career.

AND...........he's 36 years old, a little fighter almost ready to retire.

[boricuarn]

Gayweather selected Juan Manuel Marquez for this comeback fight because he is smaller, shorter and slower than him. Gayweather is showing like he did a while ago, select his fighter and victories. Gayweather never select a fighter that cause problem to him. Probably the name of Cotto cause that the ***** Gayweather get her panties wet.

[edgarg]

Manny has shown himself to be able to handle a heavier "out of his class" weight division, and do it pretty well. Marquez really hasn't-so far. In that respect they can't be compared to each other.

I haven't heard anyone yet, who KNOWS boxing, who says that
Oscar, at 143 lbs was even a 50% of his well remembered form. He must have been drained as dry as an old riverbed, and because of the need for precious time to PROPERLY re-hydrate, which he didn't have, was basically a sitting duck for Manny, who could treat him like a training session on the heavy bag.

We have to remember that Mayweather has grown into a legit welterweight for a number of years already. Against that, Marquez, only less tha a handful of fights ago, he was making 130 lbs wityh no problem, and just a little further back was a true featherweight, where, incidentally he has spent most of his career.

AND...........he's 36 years old, a little fighter almost ready to retire.

And I forgot to say WESS, that you sent in a terrific letter, which, I really think, regardless of my own letter, makes a lot of good, sound,easily granted, argument.

I just happen to feel that Manny, being younger, and just that bit better all round than Marquez, and carrying his power with him, is able to ease himself into the higher weight brackets, a bit better than Marquez.

At the same time I don't regard his win over Oscar, as being really as sigificant as it might have been, because of the circumstances I mentioned in my last letter.

But we can't get away from the fact that Manny beat Oscar was in a way that no one else has ever been able to do.

[lcheezy]

marquez chose and called out mayweather you ****** idiots

[Pullcounter]

marquez chose and called out mayweather you ****** idiots

does that mean floyd HAD TO fight jmm next?

plenty of WWs called out floyd, but floyd didn't fight them.

[Dusk147]

For those who are talking about the fact that Marquez called out Mayweather, everybody has been calling out Mayweather for years! Why did he pick a guy two divisions below him? Why did he avoid the top welters his first time around and why is he fighting a lightweight now? If he wants something less tough than some of the guys at the top in the division now that's fine, you need to get off the rust after so long away, but don't make it out to be something it isn't. Pound for Pound is supposed to be about matching fighters if they were the same size, on equal terms, and if he beats a guy two divisions lower than himself it really can't count.

[crold1]

marquez chose and called out mayweather you ****** idiots

Yeah, I'm sure that random call out wasn't planned AT ALL with a deal already moving forward. Nah.

[JAS_JAS]

i knew it, that is why their trying to hide the real catchweight of this fight. Their trying to make it look competitive, and not trying to make lil fraud jr look like a cherrypicking *****. this fool is trying to deceive the fans, by winning against a smaller and older man plus doing it in fraud jr.'s comfortable weight class. i wish JMM could muster enough to make lil fraud cry like a lil girl.