Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Hearn Got Canelo Beat - Bivol Was Irrelevant, Nobody Knew Him

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  • eco1
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    #31
    Originally posted by Apollo7

    This. Canelo doesn't need a big name opponent, he's the attraction and he has plenty of money. It seems like Canelo wanted to go for legacy by getting another belt in another division. He tried and it didn't work out, no shame in that. Banavidez and Charlo don't have anything that Canelo wants but they can still possibly get a fight with Canelo in the future.

    Now that Canelo has lost maybe these other guys can stop waiting around for him and start fighting each other?
    Canelo did not want to go for "legacy"
    He wanted to go for what he thought was another cherrypick at another weight to fool people and then call it legacy.

    AS a matter of fact, he was not aiming for Bivol, he was aiming for Makabu or whatever his name is and the pressure form social media made him stop that foolishness.

    If people would've not talked badly about it, we would have you and other Canelo nut huggers telling us HOW GREAT "Nelo" is and jerking off to a poster at your mommy's rooms.

    And you would continue with the ****** narrative of how great this POS B+ f u c k is one of the greatest of all time.

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    • Boricua181
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      #32
      Originally posted by steeve steel
      Well.. people who know boxing, knew who Bivol was and knew it was risky.
      That comment by De La Hoya, was just the latest in his bull**** show to draw attention to himself, his boxer's, and a weak attempt at luring Canelo back into his fold.
      It failed in every aspect that it intended to achieve, Oscar should take a step back, and reconsider how to effectively promote his brand, his fighters, and their future fights.

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      • Floyd is TBE
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        #33
        It wasn't that Bivol was dangerous, it's more that the general public and boxing fans vastly overestimated Canelo's abilities. If Canelo was as good as people were saying he was, he would have beaten Bivol easily.

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        • Boricua181
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          #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          It was not a big fight mate.

          Canelo Alvarez is trying really hard with his entrances, big fights don't need any of that.

          Fury vs Wilder III was a way more bigger fight, and event. Clash styles, clash of characters. It was broad way.

          But I will say this? It was a big challenge for Alvarez. Just not a exciting clash.

          Exactly that was the point I was trying to make that it wasn't as big of a fight as they were trying to make it out to be.
          It was a really over the top ring entrance, I don't think I had ever seen a more ridiculously extravagant ring entrance.
          I'll tell you what mate, if Canelo gets past GGG, in his next fight, the rematch against Bivol will be massive as the English like to say.
          Although Canelo is a very good fighter, I'm not a fan of his style or charcter, and as an exceptional as Bivol is at boxing he's not one of my favorite fighters to watch either.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Boricua181

            Exactly that was the point I was trying to make that it wasn't as big of a fight as they were trying to make it out to be.
            It was a really over the top ring entrance, I don't think I had ever seen a more ridiculously extravagant ring entrance.
            I'll tell you what mate, if Canelo gets past GGG, in his next fight, the rematch against Bivol will be massive as the English like to say.
            Although Canelo is a very good fighter, I'm not a fan of his style or charcter, and as an exceptional as Bivol is at boxing he's not one of my favorite fighters to watch either.
            I don't even think the fight needed to happen. It was born out of Alvarez's ambition.

            He could of easily fought more winnable fights, in what would of been perceived as bigger challenges by the public.

            To be honest, I knew of Bivol but? I had never watched any of his fights.

            Leading up to the fight, I watched a few rounds here and there. And picked Alvarez to win via late stoppage.

            I am lucking forward to the Golovkin fight more than the Bivol rematch. I like rivalries. This one has a intriguing theme.





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            • Boricua181
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom
              Well it was obvious that post Lara, golden boy did all they could to manage risk and not get canelo beat. But let’s not get it twisted, it was Reynoso who picked bivol and everyone else canelo faced since leaving golden boy. He was obsessed with belt chasing the least dangerous options and masked it as building the legacy. They misjudged bivol based on his last 2 performances and it backfired.
              I think you've got that right, that's analysis seems to be spot on accurate. I've got to give you credit on this post.
              Not only did you double jab, but you also lowered the boom, the set up, and the finisher.

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              • Nightfall
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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Canelo wanted to go for legacy, he took a risk, and came up on the short end of the stick.

                Nothing wrong with that at all. At least it's real, not a manufactured image carefully created by cherrypicking promoters.

                it was not real. He's already won a title at 175. It was a cherry pick from the fighter himself. it backfired. He thought it would be easy and less of a threat than fighting Charlo, Benavidez and Andrade.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by T.M.T
                  it was not real. He's already won a title at 175. It was a cherry pick from the fighter himself. it backfired. He thought it would be easy and less of a threat than fighting Charlo, Benavidez and Andrade.
                  Bivol was the #1 or at worst #2 light heavyweight on the planet.

                  That is not a cherrypick.

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                  • JakeTheBoxer
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                    #39
                    I was very surprised Canelo took Bivol fight.

                    Because I was sure Bivol would win.

                    Mayweather, GGG , Lara and Bivol are Canelo`s real fights.

                    168 run is promotional s.hit, fighting soft touches.
                    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 06-09-2022, 08:57 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      It was not a big fight. There where much bigger and better match ups for Alvarez.

                      Golovkin, Charlo, Benavidez etc..
                      These guys are more known for casuals.

                      Bivol is better fight.

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