Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Hearn Got Canelo Beat - Bivol Was Irrelevant, Nobody Knew Him

[Silence]

No one wanted that fight except Nelo. Neither Hearn nor DAZN. They already failed financially. Attendance in arena and PPV sales were funny. I saw T-Mobile Arena first time that empty.

[Boricua181]

No matter how much psychology De La Hoya uses on social media to entice Canelo back into his promotional company, it just won't work.
Canelo stated it clearly a few years ago when he broke ties with him, saying that De La Hoya double dealing behind his back, and was disloyal.
That being said he's also dishonest in his appraisal of Bivol being irrelevant, because boxing fans knew who he was, an undefeated champion, and a boxing technician.
Eddie Hearn didn't get Canelo beat, Eddie simply told Canelo, he wasn't promoting a fight between him, and IIunga Makabu the Cruiser weight champion next.
Telling him that he would have to pick between fighting Charlo, and Benavides, or Bivol, and Golovkin, in a two fight deal, before he would promote a fight with Makabu.
Canelo thinking that the lesser known lighter punching Bivol, and the 40 year old Golovkin would be the easier fights for him to win, and picked his poison.
The fact of the matter is that no matter which two fight deal he chose, it was fraught with danger for him, because Charlo, Benavides, Bivol, and this is a stretch even Golovkin stood a good chance of defeating him, as Bivol did.
Think about it De La Hoya fought every fighter of note, he ducked no one, he was the quintessential fighting champion, and he has numerous losses on his record because of it.
So he should know better than anyone else that fighters aren't unbeatable, I honestly think that De La Hoya was a better, and more exciting fighter than Canelo is now.
To be clear Canelo isn't the best fighter in boxing, and he's in store for a few more losses if not in 2022, more likely than not in 2023.
What Canelo does have are die hard fans, whom are loyal to a fault, getting down right ****** in their post, but that won't change the fact that we might be witnessing the decline of Canelo.
I'm not saying that he won't win a few more fights, but he also has a few more losses in his career, because no fighter is unbeatable, and he just isn't the best fighter in boxing.

[hhh1200]

People knew who bivol was years ago. But then charlo, be navidez and Andrade came along jumped queue

This is ridiculous. Beterbiev has always been the name ever since the McCloud fight, just dynamic as hell. The fool could have had 2 undisputed if he had fought Andrade. Andrade fight would have been a combination of FMW and Lara fights but he would have been able to keep it close enough to rob Andrade even in a visible blowout. His Mexican fans would have co-signed a fake undisputed title. He fought a bunch of stiff white guys and thought Bivol's skillsets were in the range of Fielding, Saunders, and Plant. Another fool and his cherry pick gone wrong. Welcome to Club Wilder.

Oscar is clown but was a hall of fame boxer with better skills than his overhyped cash cow, knew who to put him with, protect him from and control the outcome of his cards.

[Apollo7]

ODLH has gotta know, Canelo fights who TF he wants nowadays and how often he wants. He don’t give a **** if the MF’s well promoted or not. He just went for a belt;

This. Canelo doesn't need a big name opponent, he's the attraction and he has plenty of money. It seems like Canelo wanted to go for legacy by getting another belt in another division. He tried and it didn't work out, no shame in that. Banevidez and Charlo don't have anything that Canelo wants but they can still possibly get a fight with Canelo in the future.

Now that Canelo has lost maybe these other guys can stop waiting around for him and start fighting each other?

[Boricua181]

It was not a big fight. There where much bigger and better match ups for Alvarez.

Golovkin, Charlo, Benavidez etc..

It might not have been a big fight, but it sure turned into one, didn't you see the enormous build up before Canelo entered the ring?
The band, the pyrotechnics, him standing on a small stage next to the ring, being exalted by the crowds, it was like they were hailing Cesar.
Then everything came crashing down, because when he went into battle he ran into a master boxer, with an iron chin, and a unshakable constitution.
A fighter who didn't rely on power to win or bail him out, he counted on all of his other tools, and it was a class on how to beat a puncher, by using the art of boxing.

[Jab jab boom]

Well it was obvious that post Lara, golden boy did all they could to manage risk and not get canelo beat. But let’s not get it twisted, it was Reynoso who picked bivol and everyone else canelo faced since leaving golden boy. He was obsessed with belt chasing the least dangerous options and masked it as building the legacy. They misjudged bivol based on his last 2 performances and it backfired.

[Boricua181]

BS. clenelo got clenelo beat. He thought it would be easier to face Bivol than the severe threat fights with Charlo, Benavidez and Andrade. He chose that coward route himself and the cherry pick backfired.

That's certainly the way it looks, or at the very least the way it played itself out.

[Hustle]

This. Canelo doesn't need a big name opponent, he's the attraction and he has plenty of money. It seems like Canelo wanted to go for legacy by getting another belt in another division. He tried and it didn't work out, no shame in that. Banavidez and Charlo don't have anything that Canelo wants but they can still possibly get a fight with Canelo in the future.

Now that Canelo has lost maybe these other guys can stop waiting around for him and start fighting each other?

Canelo already won a belt in that division tho.

He passed on 45 million to fight bivol for 15 million

That's all I need to know.

[eco1]

Well.. people who know boxing, knew who Bivol was and knew it was risky.

I don't know boxing but I knew Bivol was going to destroy the ginger.
And, if there is a rematch, count on Bivol Ko'ing Canelo.



That said, "We are going for Usyk!!!! Easy work!!!"

[PRINCEKOOL]

It might not have been a big fight, but it sure turned into one, didn't you see the enormous build up before Canelo entered the ring?
The band, the pyrotechnics, him standing on a small stage next to the ring, being exalted by the crowds, it was like they were hailing Cesar.
Then everything came crashing down, because when he went into battle he ran into a master boxer, with an iron chin, and a unshakable constitution.
A fighter who didn't rely on power to win or bail him out, he counted on all of his other tools, and it was a class on how to beat a puncher, by using the art of boxing.

It was not a big fight mate.

Canelo Alvarez is trying really hard with his entrances, big fights don't need any of that.

Fury vs Wilder III was a way more bigger fight, and event. Clash styles, clash of characters. It was broad way.

But I will say this? It was a big challenge for Alvarez. Just not a exciting clash.