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  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Depends who you beat to be undefeated that's the Elephant in the room, you are always comparing apples and oranges its never one thing in a complex dynamic sport like boxing, an ATG cannot be that off 1 or 2 wins, or 30 wins against low level guys, its the entire body of work that defines a boxer like a list of requirements that get ticked off, Floyds entire body of work over such a long time is impeccable and will be engraved in the History books forever, what haters cry about will not matter a flying fck in the real world, all this BS reminds me of useless hecklers in the bleachers.
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    Floyd's body of work is good, but he's not beat any ATGs in their prime like his great rival has. He didn't win titles at 19 and at nearly 42. He didn't win titles in 7 divisions like pac. He didn't fight outside America in opponents country. He didn't give rematches to opponents he beat comfortably like pac did. He didnt give ATGs in their prime rematches and win like pac did. Pac best barrera in a rematch he didn't necessarily need to give other than to prove first fight weren't a fluke. Floyd never did that
    Last edited by hugh grant; 05-31-2022, 07:15 PM.

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    • Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

      so Harry Simon is better than a lot of ATGs then?
      Hell, I don’t know. Who’d he beat? Pac? Canelo? JMM?

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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Don't go off on tangent. As I said nobody who beat pac is greater. Why would Floyd be exception? Don't say because he's unbeaten
        Floyd’s the exception because he EASILY beat Pac, JMM and Canelo. Again, EASILY.

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        • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post


          Clottey was a joke and never amounted to anything. Only Pac fans/May haters mention him.

          A fight fan can post the resume of any fighter they want.
          Pac fans are not known for taking advantage of their rights.

          Edit -
          BTW, No resume is as bad as Pac's WW resume....considering how ''great'' he's supposed to be.
          - - Clottey ducked by l'l floydy, so of course he no good in U no good but a l'l feller named l'l floydy and his crack daddy.

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          • Originally posted by Silence View Post

            Another idiot post from NSBs dumba$$. Are Ottke, Calzaghe, Marciano better fighter than SRR who has 19 losses? Being undefeated is overrated. Fluid has at least two losses.
            Did any of those fighters EASILY beat Pac, JMM and Canelo?

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            • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              So you saying if buster had a win over Tyson and was also undefeated he'd be considered greater than tyson? Probably not, because Tyson achievements are still greater.
              That's why there's a great case hopkins is greater than calzaghe, and using same logic strong case why pacs greater than floyd.
              Yes, floyd is on paper unbeaten, and yes has a win over pac, and pac s lost. But some people can't ignore that pac win his first title at 19 years old and his last title at nearly 42 at 147 in 7 divisions
              If Douglas had not only beaten Douglas plus two other fighters the caliber of JMM and Canelo plus retired undefeated? Then hell yes.

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                Floyd's body of work is good, but he's not beat any ATGs in their prime like his great rival has. He didn't win titles at 19 and at nearly 42. He didn't win titles in 7 divisions like pac. He didn't fight outside America in opponents country. He didn't give rematches to opponents he beat comfortably like pac did. He didnt give ATGs in their prime rematches and win like pac did. Pac best barrera in a rematch he didn't necessarily need to give other than to prove first fight weren't a fluke. Floyd never did that
                He beat the best of his era over a 20 yr hiatus, prime is how long is a length of string, Floyd beat everyone before his prime during his prime and when he was out of prime, he played the field over 20ys and WON every time, you can cry different shoelaces if you like but the facts are in recorded history, and history books don't have a hater saying yeah but.

                What you spin is irrelevant BS, oh they weren't prime,,,,,,well neither was he lol, you actually make Floyd to be a bigger boxing God than his fans do.

                Here Floyd is talked about alongside Jordan as in great, you don't get bigger than that.


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                • Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                  Floyd’s the exception because he EASILY beat Pac, JMM and Canelo. Again, EASILY.
                  So Floyd not having any ATG wins makes him better.? Ok Floyd fanboy if you say so.
                  if you think Floyd s greater historically that's fine, some historians agree with you im sure. But you've certainly not come up with some unarguable mathematical and scientific equation that proves it.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 06-01-2022, 06:13 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                    If Douglas had not only beaten Douglas plus two other fighters the caliber of JMM and Canelo plus retired undefeated? Then hell yes.
                    I think your pedestalising mediocrity. Floyd s wins over a former flyweight and draining and bloating jmm and nel o respectively makes Floyd better? Floyd s better than Douglas for sure, but so is nelo
                    Your downplaying what nel o has did since his loss to floyd and what Pac did his entire career also. Oh no, not this fanboy propaganda again there is nothing nel o can do to be greater than floyd BS, as floyd s win just looks better? Floyd and nel o are neck and neck both won titles 20lbs above there original starting weight.

                    You can't admit all Floyd achieved was beat them on night according to judges. Nothing more nothing less. Doesn't mean Floyd is greater. Doesn't mean Floyd would win rematch. Doesn't mean Floyd wouldnt lose 9 out of 10 times with the 2 of them. H2H winner isn't historically greater.
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 06-01-2022, 05:17 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                      So Floyd not having any ATG wins makes him better.? Ok Floyd fanboy if you say so.
                      if you think Floyd s greater historically that's fine, some historians agree with you im sure. But you've certainly not come up with some unarguable mathematical and scientific equation that proves it.
                      Some historians? Lol, every historian.

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