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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
Using the same criteria, manny’s career would also be smoke and mirrors. He drained and weakened Cotto and Margs as the a side. So those wins are embellished as well.
Manny didn’t give Margs or Cotto a rematch. Since he didn’t, using the same criteria, these wins are not great or credible.
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At least pac fought another 10 years after fighting cotto so if he wanted to use the CW to preserve his health and career a little longer who'd begrudge pac that, all whilst dipping his toes in the division to see what it was all about? Floyd was retiring soon and that was his legacy fight with Nell so held to same criteria as pac, floyd won't be forgiven. For blatantly using the CW to keep his zero and then boast about being unbeaten as evidence to his greatness. And Pac fans dont go around saying i want cotto to beat heavyweights to overcome that loss to Pac. Floyd fans are in a class of their own.
Fight lmws for next 10 years like pac did at Ww, being oldest lmw champ of all time like pac was at WW, then floyd might be a fighter to look up to. Give Nell a rematch like pac was willing to give cotton for those who were critical of cw. Floyd don't get criticised by floyd fans so is held to lower standards. Pac offers Cotto a rematch at 147 and then is accused by floyd fans of being scared of cotto at 154? WHy dont floyd fans ever say Floyds scared of Nelo?Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2022, 10:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Silence View Post
Fluid fans act like Fluid is untouchable and I expose him. Fluid is great fighter. His crisis management is top notch. But, he is far from untouchable.
Every fighter has been hit.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Using same criteria. Pacs held to higher standards. Noone ever said pac s win over cotto and margarita are better than any Floyd's win, even though they surely were more dominant than Floyd could likely have did though over the same fighters. It's floyd fans like you who keep fawning over Nell and pac win for floyd.
At least pac fought another 10 years after fighting cotto so if he wanted to use the CW to preserve his health and career a little longer who'd begrudge pac that, all whilst dipping his toes in the division to see what it was all about? Floyd was retiring soon and that was his legacy fight with Nell so held to same criteria as pac, floyd won't be forgiven. For blatantly using the CW to keep his zero and then boast about being unbeaten as evidence to his greatness. And Pac fans dont go around saying i want cotto to beat heavyweights to overcome that loss to me. Floyd fans are in a class of their own.
Fight lmws for next 10 years like pac did at Ww, being oldest lmw champ of all time like pac was at WW, then floyd might be a fighter to look up to. Give Nell a rematch like pac was willing to give cotton for those who were critical of cw. Floyd don't get criticised by floyd fans so is held to lower standards. Pac offers Cotto a rematch at 147 and then is accused by floyd fans of being scared of cotto at 154? WHy dont floyd fans ever say Floyds scared of Nelo?
Floyd has 2 wins over opponents you said would beat him. That had to count for something if you’re evaluating boxers using the same criteria.
That is a ridiculous excuse. Manny wasn’t consistently fighting. Floyd fought 5 years after he beat Canelo so, using the same criteria, his cw should also be forgiven, just as you do Manny’s. No one claimed anyone had to beat a hwt. Stop lying.
Manny used the cw to win same as Floyd. You can’t make one better than the other if you use the same standards and criteria.
Why does Floyd have to fight law’s for 10 years? Manny started his career as a teen, that is why he is in so many weight classes. Floyd was fighting for his country.
The oldest ww is cool. But he beat Thurman and didn’t give him a rematch. According to you, that means the win isn’t great or credible.
Manny didn’t give Cotto a rematch. You don’t get credit for that. If that is the case,Floyd wanted to give Cotto a rematch as well and didn’t fight him at a cw.
Huh. You and dj****smoker claim he’s afraid because he didn’t give canelo a rematch without a CW. Using the same standard, Manny was afraid to give Cotto a rematch with a CW.
All I’m asking you to do is use the same criteria. You will not because when you do Floyd comes out ahead every time.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
As to paragraph 1- Cotto and Margs aren’t as good or popular as Canelo and Manny. Fans of both claimed they were better than Floyd and were going to beat him. He beat one 10-2 and the other 12-0.Now because Floyd did that you and anyone else that picked him to lose now change.
Floyd has 2 wins over opponents you said would beat him. That had to count for something if you’re evaluating boxers using the same criteria.
That is a ridiculous excuse. Manny wasn’t consistently fighting. Floyd fought 5 years after he beat Canelo so, using the same criteria, his cw should also be forgiven, just as you do Manny’s. No one claimed anyone had to beat a hwt. Stop lying.
Manny used the cw to win same as Floyd. You can’t make one better than the other if you use the same standards and criteria.
Why does Floyd have to fight law’s for 10 years? Manny started his career as a teen, that is why he is in so many weight classes. Floyd was fighting for his country.
The oldest ww is cool. But he beat Thurman and didn’t give him a rematch. According to you, that means the win isn’t great or credible.
Manny didn’t give Cotto a rematch. You don’t get credit for that. If that is the case,Floyd wanted to give Cotto a rematch as well and didn’t fight him at a cw.
Huh. You and dj****smoker claim he’s afraid because he didn’t give canelo a rematch without a CW. Using the same standard, Manny was afraid to give Cotto a rematch with a CW.
All I’m asking you to do is use the same criteria. You will not because when you do Floyd comes out ahead every time.
WHat did floyd do after the nelo fight that requires a CW with Nelo and why cant floyd rematch Nelo? WHy do Floyd fans prefer Nelo to fight cruiserweights rather than rematch Floyd?Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2022, 11:02 AM.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Because he fought both out of their primeThe Big Dunn likes this.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
- - l'l Floydy ducked unified Zab who had move to Baldy who couldn't even pay all the ABC sanctioning fees for the belts who whooped Zabby a new one. l'l Floydy seeing an opportunity pitterpatters Baldy to a decision and derisive BOOs and breaks down in front of Merchant.
Automatic DQ when Uncle Roger storms the ring to fight Steele and Zab in every locale in the world save MGM Vegas, so enjoy memories of that home cooking and thanks for the reminders. U the gift who keeps on giving!
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