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  • djtmal
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    #131
    Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
    Exactly what I always said. He always took on big name opponents when he knew they were not in shape. He's a big cheat and a crook. And he made a lotta money making bets on himself since he knew he had to win over incapacitated fighters.

    in the hopkins loss, the only reason why tarver couldn't pimp the excuse that he wasn't in shape mentally or physically after hanging out with stallone is because he had publicly derided roy jones for the SAME S**T....

    hopkins is no more than a high class con artist with boxing gloves on...

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      #132
      Originally posted by djtmal
      in the hopkins loss, the only reason why tarver couldn't pimp the excuse that he wasn't in shape mentally or physically after hanging out with stallone is because he had publicly derided roy jones for SAME S**T....

      hopkins is no more than a high class con artist with boxing gloves on...
      And he actually had the nerve to call Joe the biggest conman in boxing! Thats ****hop for ya.

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      • Shadows
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        #133
        Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
        Or maybe you got no point at all. Ever considered that possibility mate?
        1. I'm not your mate.

        2. Your the same guy who formulated his opnion on Whitaker by watching his past prime fights, when he was doing blow.

        Ever consider the possibility that you can't be taken seriously??

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        • Bushidō
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          #134
          Legend-ary

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          • Benncollinsaad
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            #135
            Originally posted by Shadows208
            1. I'm not your mate.

            2. Your the same guy who formulated his opnion on Whitaker by watching his past prime fights, when he was doing blow.

            Ever consider the possibility that you can't be taken seriously??
            I've seen his fights with Chavez and McGirt too. Was that past his prime?

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            • Mr. Philadel
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              #136
              Hopkins weighed in lighter than Tito and Oscar both when he fought them!!......we're talkin' about dudes who have won WORLD TITLES in different weight classes!!......a win over B.Hop would've enhanced ALL those dudes!!.......Tito was 40-0 with 33 KO's......more than capable at MW, ask Joppy!!!......Oscar was tryin' to make history and B.Hop was in his way.......Oscar WANTED the fight and B.Hop NEEDED it!!.....Winky was like on a 8 yr unbeaten streak and a top P4P fighter!!......B.Hop hasnt fought a man with MORE than 3 L's since he fought since he fought Robert Allen for the 3rd and last time in 2004......which was poor Allen's LAST REAL fight......he fought 6 rounders after that.......3 of them to be exact!!
              even into his 40's he's STILL fightin' guys who dont or didnt know how to lose in JT, Calz and Pavlik.......NONE of those guys beat him decisively......the DECISION losses to JT and Calz are debatable......boxing politics played a part in those IMO......but it is what it is!!

              long story short......B.Hop is a LEGEND!!!

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              • djtmal
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                #137
                Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                And he actually had the nerve to call Joe the biggest conman in boxing! Thats ****hop for ya.
                B-Slop....lol

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                • Benncollinsaad
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                  #138
                  Dunno if you are aware of this, but fighters rarely come in to fight at the same weight they weighed in the day before.

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                    #139
                    First Ballot Hall of Famer
                    Modern Day Legend(on the level of RJJ, Evander, and others)

                    People can whine about him fighting smaller men...well he cleaned out 160...he fought everyone he cud have fought...

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                    • djtmal
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by SekondzOut
                      Hopkins weighed in lighter than Tito and Oscar both when he fought them!!......we're talkin' about dudes who have won WORLD TITLES in different weight classes!!......a win over B.Hop would've enhanced ALL those dudes!!.......Tito was 40-0 with 33 KO's......more than capable at MW, ask Joppy!!!......Oscar was tryin' to make history and B.Hop was in his way.......Oscar WANTED the fight and B.Hop NEEDED it!!.....Winky was like on a 8 yr unbeaten streak and a top P4P fighter!!......B.Hop hasnt fought a man with MORE than 3 L's since he fought since he fought Robert Allen for the 3rd and last time in 2004......which was poor Allen's LAST REAL fight......he fought 6 rounders after that.......3 of them to be exact!!
                      even into his 40's he's STILL fightin' guys who dont or didnt know how to lose in JT, Calz and Pavlik.......NONE of those guys beat him decisively......the DECISION losses to JT and Calz are debatable......boxing politics played a part in those IMO......but it is what it is!!

                      long story short......B.Hop is a LEGEND!!!

                      don't fool yourself..soon as hopkins stepped off the official scale, he was much bigger and far stronger than tito, oscar, winky, pavlik, robert allen 15X, echols 10X, morrade hakkar (lol), eastman, simon brown, etc. despite what nobody says he lost decisively to jones, calzaghe, and taylor 2x...fighters he couldn't bully around...its always the man's fault when hopkins loses....

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