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    #181
    Originally posted by Mammoth

    Money always makes a difference. And it's not at all a bad fight. Ortiz fought Hooker, Boots fought Ennis. If Benn fights Ramirez that's perfectly fine.
    I think they’re using Ramirez name to justify somebody like Hooker being the opponent. Hearn will give us the old “well we offered it to Ramirez” jargon.

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      #182
      Originally posted by Mammoth

      Money always makes a difference. And it's not at all a bad fight. Ortiz fought Hooker, Boots fought Ennis. If Benn fights Ramirez that's perfectly fine.
      Ramirez is a good fight, I agree. Probably wouldn’t be my personal top choice seeing as he’s a light welter but it’s a very good fight. If the rumours are true that Taylor-Catterall II is Josh’s next fight and he’s going to vacate the WBC though (Zepeda rescheduled purse bid date tomorrow) it would make zero sense for Ramirez to take the fight based on his ranking at 140 with governing bodies, as RJJ says.

      I believe Hearn has been knocked back a couple of times with offers to Ramirez, so maybe it’s not the money for him. But yes the old Hearn spiel of ‘We offered Ramirez the fight, he turned it down … Mikey Garcia retired rather than face Benn’ will be brought straight out & he’ll fight Hooker or Guerrero instead.

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        #183
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        Another addition to the CBS-Chamberlain card is John Docherty vs Diego Costa, I’m assuming Docherty will be signing with Boxxer. Ben Whittaker’s debut opponent will be Greg O’Neill as well, he’s 6-6-1 so a half decent test.

        Yeah he only has one fight left on his current deal with Matchroom. Okolie has all but confirmed he’ll be leaving Matchroom for Boxxer. Matchroom have sent a legal letter to Boxxer over how they approached Okolie so not much us being said in the media but expect Okolie to be back on Sky in the near future.
        Have to be honest I consider myself fairly clued up on the domestic scene but don’t think I’ve seen Docherty fight. I see he’s pretty young and that he lost a close one to Cullen on a Matchroom card (was that deserved?). Nice to know there’s someone else around at 168 domestically though, it’s a bit of a wasteland atm it seems.

        Great info once again, cheers. So if I’m interpreting you correctly we’re going to see Okolie on a DAZN card next? Or will him and Hearn reach an agreement that he’s going Boxxer?

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          #184
          Originally posted by BrilliantAJ

          Have to be honest I consider myself fairly clued up on the domestic scene but don’t think I’ve seen Docherty fight. I see he’s pretty young and that he lost a close one to Cullen on a Matchroom card (was that deserved?). Nice to know there’s someone else around at 168 domestically though, it’s a bit of a wasteland atm it seems.

          Great info once again, cheers. So if I’m interpreting you correctly we’re going to see Okolie on a DAZN card next? Or will him and Hearn reach an agreement that he’s going Boxxer?
          Matchroom had high hopes for Docherty, he looked an exciting prospect and most expected him to beat Cullen, but Cullen exposed him a bit. He looked a bit one dimensional and over reliant on his power. Cullen was the deserved winner. Costa is also a decent puncher as well so it should be fun while it lasts.

          It’s a tough one, Matchroom could be petty and just shelve him for a while if they wanted to. Legal teams getting involved is never a good sign too. Hopefully they come to a reasonable resolution where either Okolie just completes his one fight and goes or just moved directly to Boxxer. Unsure how it all shakes out tbh mate.

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            #185
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Maurice Hooker is the frontrunner to fight Conor Benn now.

            Why can’t they find an actual Welterweight? Garcia, Ramirez, Hooker etc all 140 guys coming up.
            I actually don't mind this one. Hooker has had a few fights at 147 and he's a tall, lanky guy that hits pretty hard. Think he's underrated personally and could see him giving Benn all kinds of trouble

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              #186
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              Matchroom had high hopes for Docherty, he looked an exciting prospect and most expected him to beat Cullen, but Cullen exposed him a bit. He looked a bit one dimensional and over reliant on his power. Cullen was the deserved winner. Costa is also a decent puncher as well so it should be fun while it lasts.

              It’s a tough one, Matchroom could be petty and just shelve him for a while if they wanted to. Legal teams getting involved is never a good sign too. Hopefully they come to a reasonable resolution where either Okolie just completes his one fight and goes or just moved directly to Boxxer. Unsure how it all shakes out tbh mate.
              Fair enough, sounds a good addition to what’s already an enticing card imo. I know you mentioned Whittaker’s opponent, do you know much of Frazer’s? I don’t think it’d be possible not to be a step up from his last …

              The Okolie situation does seem a bit messy. Either way I wouldn’t have thought his next opponent would be up to much … Matchroom won’t want to put up the £££, and Boxxer won’t want to risk the potential Riakporhe unification you’ve alluded to before. We’ll see how it goes I suppose

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                #187
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                Matchroom had high hopes for Docherty, he looked an exciting prospect and most expected him to beat Cullen, but Cullen exposed him a bit. He looked a bit one dimensional and over reliant on his power. Cullen was the deserved winner. Costa is also a decent puncher as well so it should be fun while it lasts.

                It’s a tough one, Matchroom could be petty and just shelve him for a while if they wanted to. Legal teams getting involved is never a good sign too. Hopefully they come to a reasonable resolution where either Okolie just completes his one fight and goes or just moved directly to Boxxer. Unsure how it all shakes out tbh mate.
                Thought Matchroom dropped Doch too quick, think he's gonna rebound and have a good career still

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by BigZ44

                  I actually don't mind this one. Hooker has had a few fights at 147 and he's a tall, lanky guy that hits pretty hard. Think he's underrated personally and could see him giving Benn all kinds of trouble
                  It’s probably better than I expected. I just don’t really rate Hooker tbh. Be interesting to see if Benn can stop him quicker than Ortiz did.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by BrilliantAJ

                    Fair enough, sounds a good addition to what’s already an enticing card imo. I know you mentioned Whittaker’s opponent, do you know much of Frazer’s? I don’t think it’d be possible not to be a step up from his last …

                    The Okolie situation does seem a bit messy. Either way I wouldn’t have thought his next opponent would be up to much … Matchroom won’t want to put up the £££, and Boxxer won’t want to risk the potential Riakporhe unification you’ve alluded to before. We’ll see how it goes I suppose
                    Think it’s still a TBA for Frazer at the moment. Yeah I agree, I could see Matchroom just giving him a token defence in his next fight.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by BigZ44

                      Thought Matchroom dropped Doch too quick, think he's gonna rebound and have a good career still
                      Docherty vs Hutchinson could be a big fight for Scotland in the future.

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