Mayweather would have NEVER taken such a risk

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  • djtmal
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    #111
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r

    Less so than Kovalev and a better boxer than Bivol on merit. So, I'll give Mayweather the lean there as his first fight at 154 going against an ATG. Not some Turkish dude at 168.

    Then he also fought an undefeated Canelo.

    These are risks equivalent and/or greater than fighting Bivol at 175. No two ways about it.
    You give him a pass because it was a past his best Oscar who was a part time fighter?

    You gotta be ****ting me.

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    • hugh grant
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      #112
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      You’re lying. It wasn’t 5 years later.

      He beat everyone you asked him to because you felt they’d beat him. They didn’t.

      I get it- when Floyd hasn’t fought someone, label them a risk. Floyd beats him then label him shot or past it.

      You guys really are scumbags.
      No I'm not lying I didn't ask Floyd to fight 38 year old ssm I asked to fight him many years earlier.
      Anyway Ssm was the era and time before floyd. Floyd wouldn't even fight the best in his division of his time and era. Ok, Floyd scared be underdog and fight Ggg 2 inches taller as Ggg can ko him with 1 punch we get that.
      But why not fight thurman and spence?.Just cos Floyd beat the era before him in ssm and dlh and made his reputation off of them, it somehow means he don't need to fight his peers of his time, the best in his division of his time and era and let them make their names off of floyd?
      ​​​​​ Nel o is expected to fight everyone people ask of him
      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-09-2022, 04:32 PM.

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      • djtmal
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        #113
        Maybe if he would have backed up his words about GGG:

        "He's straight up and down with no special effects."

        But.....

        "I can't make 160 pounds...I can barely make 147. If I could go up to 155 pounds, I would beat him (GGG)...that's easy work,"

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #114
          Originally posted by djtmal

          You give him a pass because it was a past his best Oscar who was a part time fighter?

          You gotta be ****ting me.

          His best wasn't Oscar. Is Canelo's best Bivol by that same thought?

          It was a risk to move up to 154 and fight Oscar, an ACTUAL ATG.

          If you don't count that as better than ****ing Kovalev and at least equal to Bivol who for all we know can be no different than Plant and company when/if he ever faces Beterbiev.

          Then you have to count Canelo when he was undefeated.

          Oh, you don't want to count Canelo.

          Miguel Cotto.

          Oh you don't want to count Cotto either?

          Okay, we now can confirm exactly where you're at in this discussion.

          So there's nothing left to discuss. Cheers.

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          • klutz
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            #115
            Floyd haters still obsessed lmao

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            • Boxing fan1981
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              #116
              Absolutely not true….he would have fought Bivol….at 152lbs

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              • meme_man
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                #117
                Originally posted by klutz
                Floyd haters still obsessed lmao
                It's sad and never understood why the mods don't move these type of threads into the history section.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  No I'm not lying I didn't ask Floyd to fight 38 year old ssm I asked to fight him many years earlier.
                  Anyway Ssm was the era and time before floyd. Floyd wouldn't even fight the best in his division of his time and era. Ok, Floyd scared be underdog and fight Ggg 2 inches taller as Ggg can ko him with 1 punch we get that.
                  But why not fight thurman and spence?.Just cos Floyd fought the era before him in ssm and dlh somehow means he don't need to fight his peers of his time, the best in his division of his time and era?I
                  ​​​​​When floydvretires, these are the superstars who takes over, why not beat them? Nel o is expected to fight everyone people ask of him
                  He did beat Canelo. He also beat everyone you asked and now you try and act like he didn’t take risks.

                  Spence and Thurman weren’t the other best in the division when Floyd was active. Manny was, Floyd beat him.

                  Berto is much better than Horn, as is Ghost and Maidana.

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                  • War Room
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by CaneloBlue
                    To move up to a weight class where he would be giving away a size advantage and IMMEDIATELY take on one of the undefeated champions who stylistically would be a nightmare. History will be kinder to Canelo. He’s a throwback fighter. Remember, it’s Mayweather who said “I don’t put myself in a position where I might lose”.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      He did beat Canelo. He also beat everyone you asked and now you try and act like he didn’t take risks.

                      Spence and Thurman weren’t the other best in the division when Floyd was active. Manny was, Floyd beat him.

                      Berto is much better than Horn, as is Ghost and Maidana.
                      People would have preferred spence and thurman over guerrero and berto ortiz. Floyd is happy to make his name off yesteryear fighters, why can't thurman make his name off of floyd?
                      Yes, Floyd beat pac but there's 3 or 4 other fighters in division who thought they'd beat pac and Floyd ie thurman, spence, brook bradley. Why do floyd fans think all floyd has to do is best former flyweight pac, and that then is a forcefield barrier to bein g criticused? Why didn't floyd fight bradley, just cos pac beats him don't mean floyd does?
                      Nel o unified 168 and fights at 175.
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-09-2022, 06:51 PM.

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