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Here are all the so called experts with their poison opinions. Give credit mofos, Bivol was no Cherry picking he had almost 300 fights in the amateurs! He koed Sullivan Barrera a very big guy. Canelo fought a very skilled and determined fighter. Some idiots here are saying that Canelo didn't have a handicapped in Bivol's weight, that shows you guys how much you guys know about boxing! 2 lbs is too much for some boxers when they are not use to a weight division, even if you walk around heavier. Give credit to Nelo and don mimic Bivols win!
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I've said many times ... I'd like to see Canelo fight Jean Pascal (a fight I doubt he would ever consider) before Pascal is done. I think that would really show if Canelo has the mettle, skill, and championship fire that so many want to ascribe to him. Beyond that GGG and Saunders were his only serious opponents, after the Mayweather and Lara fights. He's been declared an ATG where his resume is actually retty poor ... with lots of questionable decisions ... undersized opponents ... and precious few KO's (remember he didn't hurt Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, Chavez Jr., Jacobs, GGG, etc. etc. Fielding, the Smith brothers, Khan, etc. were all paper tigers.
His only big KO was Kovalev, who had asterisks all over him for that fight (many believe he was paid substantially ($12 mill) to lay down. Interestingly, Bivol only got what $2 mill for this fight?
Note: Kovalev's official purse was $3 mill but his estimated total take with contract extras was $12 mill.Comment
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It was such a big gamble, Bivol was a 4-1 dog. lol.Comment
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Canelo was and always will be in my mind a glorified club fighter. His strength were and always will be his strength.His natural strength and his granite chin. Over the years, post Mayweather, he's developed some decent defensive skills, head movement etc. Other than the I've never been impressed with his actual boxing / fighting skills . All his fights were made to order for him . What's that mean ? Means fighting people with less skills . ie, , guaranteed wins. When is the last time a Canelo fight was announced and your sitting there rubbing your hands together in anticipation? It doesn't happen. We can go to Triple G and this fight. All the others were set up wins . Cotto peaked in 2008 and Mosely in 2001 . Don't be conned by " big name " fights like that. Those guys were long ago shot when Canelo fought them. The funny thing is, Canelo still struggled with these fossils. Boxing is crooked as hell . This guy had the backing and connections from day 1 . And they played it to a tee. All the casual boxing fans , I know many , and Canelo fans soak it all up. For me, Canelo is one of the biggest corrupt frauds boxing has ever seen. About the Bivol fight ? If you score a fight the way it's supposed to be scored, you'd be hard pressed to give Canelo a round. To score points, you have to connect punches to the head or body/ abdomen area. You don't get points for punching arms, shoulders, elbows , forearms, gloves , hips , and last but not least , air. Canelo barely landed at all but the above area I just mentioned. In fact , Bivol's face looked better AFTER the fight than it did before the fight. Canelo landed the odd shot but clearly he wasn't connecting in the areas your supposed to connect. Bivol was clearly out punching, out landing Canelo each and every round. Nevermind the fact Bivol controlled the ring each and every round. He did what he wanted, and when he wanted, in every single round. That's what judges are supposed to judge also. It's called " ring generalship. " . Bivol owned the ring . There's a saying in boxing , it's called " toy ". This fight was a classic example of a fighter " toying " with another. Total domination in every aspect . I see alot of people saying " oh, I gave Canelo this round, that round , " . It's all b.s . Canelo never won a round. Not one. If anyone gave him a round, it had to be out of pity, because he didn't deserve one round. When Canelo upped his pace in any particular round, Bivol would top it. That was a one sided boxing clinic. Bivol barely busted out a sweat. And from what I've seen, Bivol's easiest fight to date. Now I'm hearing they might do the fight at 168 . Because all of a sudden Canelo isn't a lightheavy. The same Canelo that has been pushing for Cruiser and Heavy title fights . Just a week ago saying he wanted Usyk at 201. But now, after Bivol , he's now a Super middleweight, nothing more. ...lol. A joke. Listen, and take this to the bank, Bivol will make 168 alot easier than Canelo. Right now Canelo is devastated. He wanted to continue his career at 175. He struggles like crazy to make 168. He doesn't want it. Bivol ? One hot steamy dump and he's at 168. It's a well known fact Bivol can make 168 quite easily and he loses nothing. So what I'm loving is, Canelo the fraud is backed into a corner now with this " I'm really just a super middleweight" talk. Bivol is going to knock him out at 168. Bivol will be just as tall, same reach, same skills , same power. It's Canelo who will actually be smaller and not as strong. If I'm Bivol , I'm jumping all over that. When Bivol knocks out and grabs Canelo's paper 168 belts, that will be the end of Canelo. Who's going to want to watch him after that? Where does he go? 160? He'd have to up the clen intake to unsafe levels. Back to 175? He'll get murdered there. Cruiser? Heavy ? .you get my drift. Canelo is a 168lb Bivol fight away from being destroyed. If he isn't already.Comment
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I give Canelo credit for stepping up and trying to do something great, but now he is at a decision point. If he really thinks he is the best, he should rematch Bivol at 175 or 168. Say what you want about Floyd, but he did an immediate rematch for both of the toughest fights he had, Castillo and Maidana, to prove he was better. Let's see how Canelo handles it.Comment
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Canelo needs to take a cold, hard look at himself if he wants to salvage anything from this loss. He has an inflated and artificial view of his abilities and what he can actually do in a boxing ring. Yes - he is a good fighter but he is not truly elite, he realistically should have five losses already on his record instead of the two.
To add to Canelo's worries there is now a blueprint emerging on how to beat him; stay very busy, keep moving, don't allow him to dictate the pace and attack him with first and second phase shots at a time.
It will be interesting to see how Canelo deals with this loss psychologically after all the money and worshipping he has received. This could be potentially damaging to him and could bring forward doubt during future fights. To my eyes Canelo doesn't have that extra gear or higher level to go to when things aren't going his way in fights - he just kind of folds and accepts defeat. We've seen this before with Mayweather, Golovkin and now Bivol.Comment
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Ok, I'll say what I want about Mayweather. He HAD to give Castillo a rematch. There's not a person I know that didn't have Castillo winning that first fight. It was one of those fights that was easy to score . The majority had it 8-4 Castillo. Even HBO's Harold Letterman scored it 8-4. And Letterman was known to favour " boxers " . That was definitely one of the type of fights where you can say " he lost the decision, but he won the fight " as far as Castillo goes. I was was watching it live and was literally stunned when I heard the score in favour of Mayweather. As most were.Comment
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To me, this wasnt a gamble, its legacy armor. He wins, then he looks great, he moved up in weight and beat a good fighter.
He loses, then its okay, he moved up in weight, no knock against him for taking a risk.
As far as legacy is concerned its a win/win; or at least win/even. Save for some outlandish action on Canelos part (multiple low blows, crapping his pants, etc), his legacy stood no risk
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