Canelo would be foolish to rematch Bivol

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  • Ronn
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    He still has very winnable fights out there for himself. Golovkin, Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez. Bivol could even stop him in a rematch. Smart thing to do is to chalk it up to going to high up in weight.
    Judging by Canelos recent appearances I would say GGG, Andrade and Benavidez all beat him by stoppage. Bivol broke his spirit.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #12
      I think Bivol would stop him in the rematch. But even if Canelo miraculously wins, he'd be pressured to fight Beterbiev. And Beterbiev would put him in a casket. Stay away from 175 Canelo.

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #13
        Charlo, Benavidez, GGG 3 at 168. these are fights for Canelo.

        Let Bivol fight Beterbiev -Smith jr. winner.

        But I guess Bivol will get another win against Canelo.

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        • Ultralight
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          #14
          Bivol beat Canelo bad enough to the point where even diehard canelo fans have to accept he lost badly. Too badly to ever win a rematch

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          • elfag
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            #15
            bivol's defense was too tight, canelo couldnt even land many body shots on him, this wasnt like plant/BJS/kovalev where they had an accumulation of body shots to slow them down in the late rounds. canelo was the one tired here and his handspeed advantage wasnt there either.

            theres no way for him to win a rematch.

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            • Silence
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              #16
              He still beats the crap out of PBC bums. He will be at his best weight at 168. He should retain his belts at 168 until his retirement. His legacy should walk on 168 way.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Solid post but I think He has to. He got dominated. Bivol was able to do a lot of what Floyd did but in a different way.

                I think that establishes a clear plan on how to attack Canelo for any trainer.

                I think he needs to go back and show a new dimension to offset that. I believe he can because he’s such a highly skilled fighter.
                Canelo has progressively got worse technically over the last few years. And he wasn't all hat to begin with.

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                • ramses07
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                  #18
                  eh I dont know

                  This is the most ive seen canelo load up

                  Dude fell in love with power, Bivol caught on quick and just countered that

                  Canelo looked mad confused, like how dare he just take my power

                  Canelo also looked the fattest ive seen him

                  Not saying he'd win a rematch, but I really do feel Canelo took this guy lightly

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #19
                    He can’t not rematch Bivol. It is not in his dna. He lost very clearly and did get dominated but there are absolutely a couple of things he can do differently in a rematch to make the fight go in his favor.

                    1. Stop head-hunting and trying to punch through Bivol’s guard and instead go to the body more often. Make body punches the main objective. Forget about uppercuts and punching around the guard until later in the fight. This also contributed to Canelo getting tired too fast. He threw too many pointless power punches. He must understand that Bivol is a big, skilled guy who isn’t just going to get knocked out easily.

                    2. Make it a rough, inside fight while going to the body. Bivol is taller, bigger and has more range. I am aware that it is easier said than done but Canelo must fight the taller, rangier man inside. Attempt to smother him. He will not win otherwise.

                    3. Whether media and fans like it or not, the fight was scored closely by the judges. Just 115-113. This was because while Bivol’s total numbers look very dominating, fights are scored round by round. Judges find it easier to score power punches. Canelo is good at this. If you notice power punches landed round by round, 8 rounds were very close.

                    1. 5-4 Bivol
                    2. 7-7
                    3. 9-8 Bivol
                    4. 7-7
                    6. 5-4 Bivol
                    9. 10-8 Bivol
                    10. 4-3 Bivol
                    11. 12-12

                    Rounds 5, 7, 8 and 12, were all Bivol by a comfortable margin in power punches. Judges love this. This is how you beat Canelo. But as we can see from the 8 rounds above where the power numbers were either up by 1 for Bivol, or tied, this is why Bivol ONLY won 115-113. Those 8 rounds are the key to the rematch for Canelo.

                    Other things Canelo has going for him is that he was able to back up Bivol plenty of times, and, whether people want to admit it or not, Canelo took Bivol’s power punches very well for 12 rounds.

                    This fight was 7-5 in favor of Bivol imo, and I understand 8-4 and 9-3, I have no complaints of those scorecards. But Canelo can absolutely improve and win a rematch. All he needs to do is a LITTLE better, round by round, in 7 rounds, and he can win.

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                    • TernceBudCharlo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      He can’t not rematch Bivol. It is not in his dna. He lost very clearly and did get dominated but there are absolutely a couple of things he can do differently in a rematch to make the fight go in his favor.

                      1. Stop head-hunting and trying to punch through Bivol’s guard and instead go to the body more often. Make body punches the main objective. Forget about uppercuts and punching around the guard until later in the fight. This also contributed to Canelo getting tired too fast. He threw too many pointless power punches. He must understand that Bivol is a big, skilled guy who isn’t just going to get knocked out easily.

                      2. Make it a rough, inside fight while going to the body. Bivol is taller, bigger and has more range. I am aware that it is easier said than done but Canelo must fight the taller, rangier man inside. Attempt to smother him. He will not win otherwise.

                      3. Whether media and fans like it or not, the fight was scored closely by the judges. Just 115-113. This was because while Bivol’s total numbers look very dominating, fights are scored round by round. Judges find it easier to score power punches. Canelo is good at this. If you notice power punches landed round by round, 8 rounds were very close.

                      1. 5-4 Bivol
                      2. 7-7
                      3. 9-8 Bivol
                      4. 7-7
                      6. 5-4 Bivol
                      9. 10-8 Bivol
                      10. 4-3 Bivol
                      11. 12-12

                      Rounds 5, 7, 8 and 12, were all Bivol by a comfortable margin in power punches. Judges love this. This is how you beat Canelo. But as we can see from the 8 rounds above where the power numbers were either up by 1 for Bivol, or tied, this is why Bivol ONLY won 115-113. Those 8 rounds are the key to the rematch for Canelo.

                      Other things Canelo has going for him is that he was able to back up Bivol plenty of times, and, whether people want to admit it or not, Canelo took Bivol’s power punches very well for 12 rounds.

                      This fight was 7-5 in favor of Bivol imo, and I understand 8-4 and 9-3, I have no complaints of those scorecards. But Canelo can absolutely improve and win a rematch. All he needs to do is a LITTLE better, round by round, in 7 rounds, and he can win.
                      Canelo did not win 5 rounds. Stop it. He got absolutely outclassed and dominated.

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