Manny-Morales, Both Unaware or Ignorant?

[chito]

hey, dont take this personally guys. this is just an oppinion ok? it is not impossible for every fighter to use some dirty tactics if they need to specially if the fight is going lopsided. am saying this based on what EM's countrymen had done when they faught Pacman. when felt that they are in trouble and they cant win the fight by doing it fairly. it has been proven by MAB and JMM. so dont tell me that its impossible for EM to do this. its all possible to all fighters. that is if you realy know how it is. i said it before and i'll say it again. these are just possiblities so dont take it personally. now you may say your own oppinion but dont start smack taklking like some did. i dont start, i just bounce back.

agapito sanchez is dirty. or could be that trinidad also is dirty for using those elbows or even hopkins for holding and hitting. but i don't think erik morales is a dirty fighter. i like him as a fighter because he really comes to the ring ready to fight, making sure that the fans get what they truly deserve. i can even call mr morales as a very gentleman in the ring (if its ok and if there's a term for that in boxing). this fight between pacman and morales is a classic fight between two warriors of equal caliber that's why the title "COMING WITH EVERYTHING" is so appropriate for this fight. let's just wait for this fight and reserve your opinions later, ok? im a pac fan and i like him to win, but if it doesn't happen, i'll just accept it and i'll say ok.. this is just another loss, pac is still young and could still win a belt and becomes a champion. peace to all the boxing fans out here.

[evosbm]

agapito sanchez is dirty. or could be that trinidad also is dirty for using those elbows or even hopkins for holding and hitting. but i don't think erik morales is a dirty fighter. i like him as a fighter because he really comes to the ring ready to fight, making sure that the fans get what they truly deserve. i can even call mr morales as a very gentleman in the ring (if its ok and if there's a term for that in boxing). this fight between pacman and morales is a classic fight between two warriors of equal caliber that's why the title "COMING WITH EVERYTHING" is so appropriate for this fight. let's just wait for this fight and reserve your opinions later, ok? im a pac fan and i like him to win, but if it doesn't happen, i'll just accept it and i'll say ok.. this is just another loss, pac is still young and could still win a belt and becomes a champion. peace to all the boxing fans out here.

nobody is saying he's a dirty fighter. but for every fighter, it is not impossible to use some. its part of the sport. can you call MAB a dirty fighter? i dont think so but he sure uses some if he thinks he needs to like when he frustratedly used headbutt on Manny and when he threw a punch during the break and when he steps on Manny's foot in the first round thus making him benifited for a 10-8 roun. this is the same case with JMM. would you call JMM a dirty fighter? i dont think so. but JMM definitely used a lot of low blow against Manny. why do you think they'r doing this? this is one of the many tactics that a fighter can go for to distract his opponent and lose concentration particulaly their defenses. so dont think that when one says a fighter might use dirty tactics doesnt mean he always does. ASSUMING EM is obviously being pumeled by Manny in the early rounds and EM realized how tough his opponent is and that his style is not being effetive and there's still a long way to go. do you think its impossible for him to use some dirty tactics to regain composure? i strongly doubt it.

[Zn1]

EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.

i think youll find he IS a tough tomato can mexican
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[michael_Q]

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight

i think it would be foolish to say that both camps are unaware or ignorant of the matter. in a fight most especially in a war, you should not only have one plan, there are plans B or C. otherwise you'll end up questioning "Where did i go wrong?". definitely, both camps have scouted and did research on most if not all possible occurrences. In this fight, it would only matter on whose camp worked on their foe's weaknesses and the boxer whose condition proves more and whose heart hungers more.

[evosbm]

i think youll find he IS a tough tomato can mexican
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LOL! man that's funny! thanks to funny guys like you. you give life to this site. LOL!

[m00ks]

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.

Key words NO DOUBT. That ain't realistic. Simple as that. But no beefs man, bygons be bygons

[Moon]

EM may not box ...... we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman ..... i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO?

Hey, they're your words not mine. Seems you don't know what you say from one post to the next.

Your words do, in fact, suggest that Cortez is incompetent. How else could he make those "bad calls" after reffing so many Championship fights?

Also, it was you who asked "will they allow him (Pac) to win w/o a KO?". That's pretty obvious you think that Pac might not be ALLOWED to win. You said it, not me.

And, if you think I "reacted like **** by posting ****", that's OK. At least I have a coherent thought from time to time and don't contradict myself with every second post. Also, I figure a truly "****" post is one that doesn't make sense ... like your response to my post.

[Zn1]

LOL! man that's funny! thanks to funny guys like you. you give life to this site. LOL!

well thats at least 2 peeps that have appreciated it..
me being one of those

[evosbm]

Key words NO DOUBT. That ain't realistic. Simple as that. But no beefs man, bygons be bygons

no problem bro. as long as things wont be taken personally, everything's gonna be fine. but regarding the NO DOUBT, i just honestly think IMO, its gonna be Pacman based on style NO DOUBT. its realistic enough for me (IMO). i've seen enough of EM's fights and i'd rather think that JMM has the greater threat for Manny than EM. though we can say EM and MAB are different, i can tell that they have a lot of similarities when throwing their combinations. but MAB IMO has the better deffense than EM. but i am not disregarding the fact that anything can happen in a fight between Pac and EM. even an easy opponent can win a KO with Pacman if we're taking that principle. but then again, those were just my oppinions. no big deal.

[evosbm]

Hey, they're your words not mine. Seems you don't know what you say from one post to the next.

Your words do, in fact, suggest that Cortez is incompetent. How else could he make those "bad calls" after reffing so many Championship fights?

Also, it was you who asked "will they allow him (Pac) to win w/o a KO?". That's pretty obvious you think that Pac might not be ALLOWED to win. You said it, not me.

And, if you think I "reacted like **** by posting ****", that's OK. At least I have a coherent thought from time to time and don't contradict myself with every second post. Also, I figure a truly "****" post is one that doesn't make sense ... like your response to my post.

sorry man but i thought i have carefully explained everything about that same predicament of yours. i dont think i can explain it even further to people of such level of intellect like you have. otherwise we'll be going in circles about this matter. anyway, thanks for sharing your observation regarding my post.