Manny-Morales, Both Unaware or Ignorant?

[czars_salad]

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight

psy-war, it's just psy-war

[AIR_KENG]

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight

they are just saying the what the media wants to hear...

[oldgringo]

oldgringo, let me teach you a little basic understanding on your word "IMPLYING". what you're trying to explain is not IMPLYING, that is simply "PUTTING WORDS INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOUTH." and i dont think that kind of simple post is hard for you to understand. you can even explain it well, except you gave more malice in it. i used precise and simple terms to deliver what it realy meant but you basically gave it more meaning beyond the definition of terms used. now, just because one missed to type the associated word in a statement, doesnt mean he has poor english does he?

anyway, just to justify my basis for that post, i'll rather explain it further. this is based on my own opinion ofcourse in which you dont have the right to alter unless i wish to do so. pls take note of the difference of your choice of words as highlighted in your post.

when i said that EM "MAY not box", i ment EM could "possibly" just slug it out once he's tagged as he always did. this means he may or may not do it as he pleases. there's a BIG difference there in your explanation when you used the word "WILL". in which case has no other alternative way except as how you perceived it. got it?

when i said "we could be seeing bad calls from Cortez," i was thinkin' of Manny's fight with JMM when he got too many intentional low blows and yet Cortez didnt even gave JMM a single point deduction. plus, when JMM was KD'ed the 3rd time, he even let JMM rest for 15sec! isnt that all infavor of JMM? is that impossible to happen between Pac and EM? again to correct your explanation, you used the term "going to." but i used the word "could be" which means "again, only a possibility."

and when i said "will they allow him to win w/o a KO," this time its just a question whether they will or will not do anything ****** like what happenned in the past. i was thinkin' about the decision of PAC-JMM where Clements scored the first round 10-7 when it should have been 10-6 for Pac that caused Manny two world title. plus, Guy Jutras' total scoring is so questionable that in a close and tight rounds after the 1st, he scored 10 rounds for Marquez which is obviously impossible. even when Pacman faught MAB, there are a lot of bad calls of Laurance Cole against Manny which are so obvious. if it werent for the KO and the KD's, it could have also been a draw. you see how these things play a major part of every action? considering the fact that no Filipino fighter has ever won a fight in MGM Las Vegas? now what am saying here is that its not impossible to happen in Pac-EM match isnt it? again, its just a "possibility". but you kept on using the term "going to."

i hope this is reachable by your level of intelligence. if not, you can always use an adjective on my english as an excuse like you always do.

Thank you. All we need is a nice, somewhat clearer explanation of what you actually intend to say. It's often hard to communicate with you because IMO you write a bunch of stuff without thinking of how your message will be perceived by others. You WERE the, "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA" guy not so long ago. All I have to say is THINK before you post, you may hear back from people who ill-receive your post if you don't. But maybe you don't care I dunno.

As for Morales using dirty tactics...well of course he's capable of fouling Manny, but Manny is also capable of fouling Morales. Basically what you did in your original post was simply speculate. But you are throwing out random situations without evidence. And that "Morales used elbows against Chi" example is tired and overexaggerated. You have to be insanely paranoid to believe that the judges were out get Manny in the Marquez fight or that they'll wrong him on March 19th.

You have an opinion and that's fine. But you are spewing out random **** without being objective. You are generalizing when you say, "Morales' countrymen used dirty tactics when they were in trouble (JMM, Barrera) so why is it impossible for Morales to do so?" Not every Mexican fighter is the same...sure its possible for Morales to foul Pacquiao, but no more than the converse. Give Morales a fair shake and people will respect your opinion more.

That entire last sentence you typed was just part of the bull**** that makes it hard for people to communicate with you. That, "I hope this is reachable blah blah blah" BS makes that entire quality post you just made worthless. I never insulted your intelligence directly, although I could have. I stated that your english was not very good...it was hard for me to understand because some of the wording looked like a person with a severe case of dyslexia wrote it. I understand that you are a pretty intelligent guy when not discussing certain aspects of Pacquiao. I guess i'll just have to take what you say at face value from now on and not read into your posts for deeper meaning.

[oldgringo]

I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....

EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.

[oldgringo]

if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."

Nothing you said is impossible. It's just very unlikely. Like it's been said a million times, Morales is one of the cleanest fighters in the sport. But if you're right then you get the added bonus of rubbing it all in everyones face after the fight so at least you can get a good night's rest tonight.

[evosbm]

Thank you. All we need is a nice, somewhat clearer explanation of what you actually intend to say. It's often hard to communicate with you because IMO you write a bunch of stuff without thinking of how your message will be perceived by others. You WERE the, "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA" guy not so long ago. All I have to say is THINK before you post, you may hear back from people who ill-receive your post if you don't. But maybe you don't care I dunno.

As for Morales using dirty tactics...well of course he's capable of fouling Manny, but Manny is also capable of fouling Morales. Basically what you did in your original post was simply speculate. But you are throwing out random situations without evidence. And that "Morales used elbows against Chi" example is tired and overexaggerated. You have to be insanely paranoid to believe that the judges were out get Manny in the Marquez fight or that they'll wrong him on March 19th.

You have an opinion and that's fine. But you are spewing out random **** without being objective. You are generalizing when you say, "Morales' countrymen used dirty tactics when they were in trouble (JMM, Barrera) so why is it impossible for Morales to do so?" Not every Mexican fighter is the same...sure its possible for Morales to foul Pacquiao, but no more than the converse. Give Morales a fair shake and people will respect your opinion more.

That entire last sentence you typed was just part of the bull**** that makes it hard for people to communicate with you. That, "I hope this is reachable blah blah blah" BS makes that entire quality post you just made worthless. I never insulted your intelligence directly, although I could have. I stated that your english was not very good...it was hard for me to understand because some of the wording looked like a person with a severe case of dyslexia wrote it. I understand that you are a pretty intelligent guy when not discussing certain aspects of Pacquiao. I guess i'll just have to take what you say at face value from now on and not read into your posts for deeper meaning.

oh, i can see that you havent got it over with with the "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA," thing. i thought i have cleared that before already. but since i can see that you're the type who demands clearer explanation, it'll be no prblem for me to take time for it. ok, now i want you to pay attention very carefuly and try not to misinterpret this.

the reason why i and some Pac fans said such things is simply to make noise hoping it would reach the fighters so that they'll insist on proving themselves (which EM had just done) that the Pac fans we're wrong, and he's not such kind of fighter. and i believe it was effective dont you think? EM was suppose to be moving up in weight atfer his fight with MAB as he promised. but look where he is now. and you can also see that it was being effective when EM always tried to tell the media men that he wants Pacman thus showing that he aint scared of him and he aint avoiding him, coz he was facing MAB. another reason why such comment was made is to also show how fans would tend to react or think when promoters promises a fight with Pacman then suddenly leaves him out in the cold by taking other fight than what was agreed by principle (i hope you're updated with that case). this is how fans can show power, by making themselves heared. you create issues that will put pressure on the concerned party. but guys like you have taken it seriously and too shallow that it seem to haunt you even in your sleep. well, am sorry for that. i can understand that not all can dig the obvious reasons behind such comments. maybe i should be the one saying THINK or ASK (politely) before reacting. but i do hope its clear on you now.

as for EM-Pac fouling, that's exactly what i meant. but why i said it'll be EM? simple, fighters like them usually use this only when they can see that fighting their opponent fairly is not enough to distract him. again, IMO it might be EM who'll be on that part. and you can say that its gonna be Pac if you do think that Pac will be out hassled (which i doubt). its just an oppinion, no big deal. and its not just speculation, how can you say that when you actually agreed to me that EM himself is capable of doing it? dont you think you contradicted your own accusation?

with regards to being paranoid on Pac being wronged on March 19. how could you say that? didnt i just made it clear on the other post why i thought so? again, if you realy know boxing, you know that these happened many times and it happened to Pacman when he faught JMM and it was in MGM Grand Las Vegas and worse, its both under Bob Arum's influence. its business my friend. a business man like Arum will do ANYTHING and i mean ANYTHING to win. that is ofcourse if Pac fails to KO EM. now again let me ask you is it not possible to happen? if you'd believe that it could, how then can you say am being paranoid of that? in these case you seemed to be the one spewing out random **** without being objective.

about generalizing Morales' countrymen using dirty tactics when they were in trouble, am just trying to narrow it down to the persons (JMM and MAB) involved with Pacman. but if you're going to carefuly understand it, i think again i have made it clear that all fighters are capable of doing so but that doesnt meant am not giving EM a fair shake. again, you're accusing me of how you think it is. that's just too shallow.

as for some people having trouble communicating with me by insulting their intelligence. maybe wanna take another glance read your last part of your post and maybe you wanna look into the mirror and say it again to me. besides, if you'll look back on the posts in this thread, you'll see who started giving oppinions and who started talking bull****! now if you want iit to be cool just say it cool and quit using terms that wont justify your intention of getting cool. COOL!

[evosbm]

Originally Posted by m00ks
I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....

EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.

[czars_salad]

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.

LETS GET IT ON!!!

[evosbm]

Originally Posted by evosbm
if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."

Nothing you said is impossible. It's just very unlikely. Like it's been said a million times, Morales is one of the cleanest fighters in the sport. But if you're right then you get the added bonus of rubbing it all in everyones face after the fight so at least you can get a good night's rest tonight.

you may be right. EM is one of the cleanest fighters. but you have already agreed to me that its POSSIBLE. because of that, this post of yours DOESNT FIT the objective of the subject at hand as i posted above. it would have been better if you did not reply to that and kept silent. or you should have made another post without replying to that.

its as simple as understanding the actual meaning of the word "POSSIBILITY." i dont see anything in it that would stimulate Morales nuthuggers by reacting to it. unless ofcourse one has the malicious and judgemental way of interpreting oppinions.

[evosbm]

LETS GET IT ON!!!

oh yeah baby! this is thrilling me! yeeeehaaaah!!! the fight is near and i cant wait to see what surprises these fighters have for us to see. i jsut hope the deserving fighter wins this fight and not be affected by boxing politics. otherwise, its gonna be a very memorrable fight.