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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #21
    Originally posted by tonysoprano
    Seriously 350M people and every high school has 30-40 17-18 yr olds kids in the football team built like brick ****houses. And you can't fight find 1 HW to beat this fat gypsy garbage Fury??

    Frazier, Liston, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Holmes would have ****d Fury you must be able to get 1 dude in shape to beat his fat ass. They can make hundreds of millions as well doing it.

    Ever since the US stopped producing HW's the division has been total garbage and this trash like Fury/Whyte is now what we're left with.
    Their not in the ring cause their eating out of the ice cream carton on the couch playing video games.

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    • anonymous2.0
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      #22
      I think it's mainly because at a young age boxing has to compete with so many other sports including school sports. By the time these kids find boxing they're already ingrained in other sports. Plus the pay scale is pretty off putting for new boxers, who wants to spend the first 1-3 years making 4, maybe 5 digit figures per fight that gets sliced up by promoter/trainer/managers? And there's so many more role models in other sports than in boxing, sometimes you get good guys that do philanthropy in boxing and other charity but they have no where as near as good public relations as other athletes in other sports.
      Last edited by anonymous2.0; 04-23-2022, 10:37 PM.

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      • sicko
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        #23
        Jared Anderson is working his way up and I'm sure others will emerge eventually but I don't "NEED" an American Heavyweight at the top to enjoy the sport

        We have Kids in High School the height of Tyson Fury, some even taller and are just Athletic Freaks, it is no way they're picking Boxing over Football or Basketball and I honestly I don't blame them. Boxing is just not worth it anymore honestly!

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        • Nash out
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          #24
          Wilder the 2nd best HW ever, Anderson great prospect. Who are these recent-isH great American HW'S? CW Evan Fields? Bum Bully Tyson? Poor man's Kevin Johnson, Holmes? Viva la Fury. Nash out.

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          • Earl-Hickey
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            #25
            Originally posted by TreyShaw
            Olympic Silver medalist Richard Torres is coming for all these fat no skill euro HWs.

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            • Sid-Knee
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              #26
              Originally posted by TreyShaw
              Olympic Silver medalist Richard Torres is coming for all these fat no skill euro HWs.
              Yeah, i thought the same when watching one of those no skill Euro's knocking Torrez cold and then beating him again at the last Olympics. I'm sure the Euro's are shaking at the thought of having to smack him around like they do the rest.

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              • Mammoth
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                #27
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                In other sports
                End thread..................

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                • Inspired
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                  #28
                  After the fallout of the doping scandal in the early 00s (eg marion jones and the US war on terror, they stopped funding boxing at amateur/olympic level. Notice the soviet bloc nations and the UK spent more? even france spent more than the US.

                  Between 99-15, the US spent $4M entirely on amateur level boxing.
                  Between 16-20, the UK spent £16m on the same.

                  $16m over the past 20 years, there were periods where the $ to £ rate even hit 2:1. Basically a crappy guess at ave $1.75 to the pound means $28m. The US has 6x the population of the UK and it was 4x the same period, ie $28x24. $672m is what the US would have to have spent to have been on the same level of investment as in the UK.

                  Now picture $668m invested over that 16 year old period. State of the art training facilities, coaches, scouts etc.
                  Boxing was forgotten.

                  Then consider that Boxing is popular with urban culture. it isnt a middle class white culture, it is a working mans culture. in the UK, if you're an urban kid over 6ft 4, you have less chance of making it in the money sport, Soccer./football which is better suited to people with a lower centre of gravity (hence why maradona and messi are the best ever).
                  Rugby, is not a money or glamour sport nor is it popular in urban culture. So basically the big guys only have boxing to go to.

                  in the US, they have US football and basetball. In the US, it's the little guys or ave height guys who have less chance in the glamous sports so they gravitate to boxing. That's why they produce the best Welterweights in the world in the US and not in the UK.

                  obv with the lack of funding taken into account, the ones who make it into boxing are anomalies...which makes them pretty special in their own way. look at ruiz, wilder and jarell miller, they arent your textbook old fashioned american HW back when they had funding.



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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tonysoprano

                    Fcuk is wrong with them? Fury fights like once a year and just made 40M.

                    They are missing out, boxing isn't like the old days you make it to the top and you're working 1 or 2 nights a year for tens of millions.
                    Boxing is a very hard and only a very small % makes that much money.Team sports can get you paid being on the bench. You have to have a certain mentality to take the risks boxers take.

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                    • Inspired
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      Jared Anderson is working his way up and I'm sure others will emerge eventually but I don't "NEED" an American Heavyweight at the top to enjoy the sport

                      We have Kids in High School the height of Tyson Fury, some even taller and are just Athletic Freaks, it is no way they're picking Boxing over Football or Basketball and I honestly I don't blame them. Boxing is just not worth it anymore honestly!

                      it wasnt worth it before when wilder was on small money, but AJ+Eddie Hearn, Dazn and then the rest....it's now too lucrative to ignore. Wilder was offered ****** money and turned it down.

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