Canelo should be ranked higher than FloydJr on the all timers list.

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  • Haka
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    Canelo should be ranked higher than FloydJr on the all timers list.

    Floyd beat Canelo when Canelo was GREEN. The haters are going to say: Floyd was prime at 23 yrs old so Canelo should too.

    Here is why that is a faulty comparison:

    Floyd was getting world class training (Roger, Floyd Sr) since he could walk, Canelo started boxing at 13. Those are already 8 years difference in experience (if Floyd started at 5yrs of age for ex.). Age 5-13 are very formative so getting the proper training in childhood is what very much makes the difference. It means that in the Floyd - Canelo fight, Canelo had 10 yrs of experience and Floyd 30+ years experience.

    Now the reason why Canelo is ranked higher is because Floyd did the chicken dance after coming out of retirement (because his skillset had not much turnover rate at the higher weights). He took on Maiden, Berto, Ghost, Ortiz, Baldomir etc. etc. Fights that Floyd was a heavy favourite in before hand by the bookies (for good reason since most fighters were cherrypicked bums.) Instead the fans wanted to see dangerous fights with: Williams, Prime Cotto, Wright, GGG, Mosley (2008), Tszyu, Margarito, Prime Pac, Lara. Floyd ducked them all.

    Canelo is now taking on these dangerous fight that Floyd never dared to take in fighting Bivol. Fighting Bivol is alike Floyd fighting Lara (which never happened). So that is why.
  • Joe Grizzley
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    Bro, nobody in boxing history is green at 42-0. Get lost lol.

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    • Haka
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      #3
      Originally posted by Joe Grizzley
      Bro, nobody in boxing history is green at 42-0. Get lost lol.
      If it wasn't for the Clen and the Roids ....

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      • hugh grant
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        Originally posted by Joe Grizzley
        Bro, nobody in boxing history is green at 42-0. Get lost lol.
        Wilder was when he fought stiverne, wilder was unproven. He needed the stiverne and ortiz fights to prove he was any good and was theǹ ready to take on that version of fury
        Last edited by hugh grant; 04-21-2022, 03:18 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Wilder was when he fought stiverne, wilder was unproven. He needed the stiverne and ortiz fights to prove he was any good and was theǹ ready to take on that version of fury
          lol Wilder was green in the last fight, lol what a mind you have to pick the most uncoordinated unko fighter to win a world title as a reference to Mayweather vs Canelo, you do my head in with your dumbness.

          Canelo had 42 wins and 10 WT fights with 32kos under his belt , fcn green my azz, he would have beat any WW in the world that night, but not an ATG with the skills of Mayweather

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          • Joe Grizzley
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            Originally posted by hugh grant

            Wilder was when he fought stiverne, wilder was unproven. He needed the stiverne and ortiz fights to prove he was any good and was theǹ ready to take on that version of fury
            Doesn't make you green dude lol. These guys were world champs, but they're green. Jesus in Heaven.

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            • deathofaclown
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              Green Canelo was in every p4p list, had 40+ fights and made 6 world title defences lol

              By the way, Floyd was way past his best with ruined hands too

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              • Silence
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                Canelo started boxing at his 13.

                Canelo has hamster amateur career. He is unofficially 44-2 but his competition level was shıt. People didn't let their children to fight Nelo because he was too good and bully. He had to fight in pro at his 15.

                ​​​​​​Canelo grew up in his pro career. This was too risky to lose his "0". He was beating much bigger, older and more experiment guys when he was child.

                Canelo drained himself at 154 for years.

                Eddy Reynoso was, is and will never be elite trainer. You can see this in his other fighters' performance. Canelo didn't work with elite and famous trainer.

                Canelo is freak of nature from Guadalajara's brutal streets. His raw talent is almost limitless. Just think what he could do with better and longer amateur career, elite famous trainer and non-drained form.
                Last edited by Silence; 04-21-2022, 04:45 AM.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joe Grizzley

                  Doesn't make you green dude lol. These guys were world champs, but they're green. Jesus in Heaven.
                  Nel o was more green as he improved so much since trout and Floyd fights. Whilst wilder just relay on power.
                  Nelos got a resume under belt now, the one Floyd fought hadnt. And today's below beats people easier and looksvscary
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 04-21-2022, 04:43 AM.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #10
                    Not this again. There has to be more to talk about in 2022 than anti Floyd ridiculousness.

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