If you enjoy boxing more than MMA, why?
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Ive always found this **** tedious tbh. I remember back in the 00s Arum, Dibella and Floyd did interviews about MMA and within like a minute all three completely unprovoked took it into white guys this, white guys that talk like somehow its an automatic negative. Its just weird. I mean dont those same "hillbillies" make up a significant portion of the audience for American football ie the biggest sport in America?
If MMA fans, promoters and fighters were so quick to make similar observations about the demographics of boxing fans in America, and present it as a negative, it wouldnt fly at all. Its not even especially accurate anyway.
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MMA is the blind leading the blind and a totally unnecessary exercise born out of ignorance for our own sport's history.
MMA is still very unprofessional and features low caliber athletes who are bad practitioners of the arts they are meant to be experts in.
MMA is basically just dudes like Frank Dux, Ashida Kim, George Dillman, Count Dante, Bart Vale, Steven Segal, Raphiel Torre, etc. I could a while tbh. Teaching gullible, ******, hopeful combat sportsmen how to "fight".
From dude's own website:
Coach Mike Winkeljohn is one of the most sought after coaches in the world of Mixed Martial Arts today. He is a 5th Degree Black Belt in Kempo Karate
Growing up in Albuquerque, Winkeljohn always wanted to be the toughest guy in the neighborhood for what he would now tell you were the wrong reasons
As a young man, Winkeljohn won plenty more street fights than he lost, but it took only one humbling experience for him to seek out further instruction in his ever-evolving passion.
“I got beat up one day by a guy who was much smaller than me: a good wrestler who had some good boxing hands,” Winkeljohn recalled, dissecting the fight like the coach he has become. “It made me think, ‘Hey, I better change this.’ I did really good up until that point in time. I had my share of good moments - which I’m not proud of. I think I was doing a lot of things for the wrong reason.”
Record: Mike Winkeljohn | Fighter Page | Tapology
Neat story huh?
I know the kids in MMA eat up the **** their trainers tell them. I realize the fans eat up the **** their fighters tell them. MMA has ****house trainers and that's why Ronda Rousey tried to box, Conor McGregor still can't throw a ****ing punch, Ditto for both "excellent boxers" the Diaz brothers, and Brock Lesnar was able to beat the **** out of active "pros" with nothing but a college level training in a sport he hadn't actually been in, in over a decade.
Bart Vale began his martial arts training in 1970 with kenpo. He later traveled to Japan where he was a professional wrestler in the Pro Wrestling Fujiwara Gumi (a shoot-style professional wrestling organization) champion for close to three years. In Japan, he also studied a number of other styles and coined the term "shootfighting", a martial art that combines striking and grappling. He co-founded the International Shootfighting Association and in 1992, began the Shootfighting World Championships
Now, whose sounds ******er? The known fraud Bart Vale, or, the well respect Mike Winkeljohn?
Exactly my point, dude's a ****house and takes fine athletes and makes them ****houses complete with ****house excuses for their ****house abilities.
It's not "mma boxing" it's just poor boxing. It's not "mma feints" the superman punch is ****ing ******ed period.Comment
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MMA is the blind leading the blind and a totally unnecessary exercise born out of ignorance for our own sport's history.
MMA is still very unprofessional and features low caliber athletes who are bad practitioners of the arts they are meant to be experts in.
MMA is basically just dudes like Frank Dux, Ashida Kim, George Dillman, Count Dante, Bart Vale, Steven Segal, Raphiel Torre, etc. I could a while tbh. Teaching gullible, ******, hopeful combat sportsmen how to "fight".
From dude's own website:
Coach Mike Winkeljohn is one of the most sought after coaches in the world of Mixed Martial Arts today. He is a 5th Degree Black Belt in Kempo Karate
Growing up in Albuquerque, Winkeljohn always wanted to be the toughest guy in the neighborhood for what he would now tell you were the wrong reasons
As a young man, Winkeljohn won plenty more street fights than he lost, but it took only one humbling experience for him to seek out further instruction in his ever-evolving passion.
“I got beat up one day by a guy who was much smaller than me: a good wrestler who had some good boxing hands,” Winkeljohn recalled, dissecting the fight like the coach he has become. “It made me think, ‘Hey, I better change this.’ I did really good up until that point in time. I had my share of good moments - which I’m not proud of. I think I was doing a lot of things for the wrong reason.”
Record: Mike Winkeljohn | Fighter Page | Tapology
Neat story huh?
I know the kids in MMA eat up the **** their trainers tell them. I realize the fans eat up the **** their fighters tell them. MMA has ****house trainers and that's why Ronda Rousey tried to box, Conor McGregor still can't throw a ****ing punch, Ditto for both "excellent boxers" the Diaz brothers, and Brock Lesnar was able to beat the **** out of active "pros" with nothing but a college level training in a sport he hadn't actually been in, in over a decade.
Bart Vale began his martial arts training in 1970 with kenpo. He later traveled to Japan where he was a professional wrestler in the Pro Wrestling Fujiwara Gumi (a shoot-style professional wrestling organization) champion for close to three years. In Japan, he also studied a number of other styles and coined the term "shootfighting", a martial art that combines striking and grappling. He co-founded the International Shootfighting Association and in 1992, began the Shootfighting World Championships
Now, whose sounds ******er? The known fraud Bart Vale, or, the well respect Mike Winkeljohn?
Exactly my point, dude's a ****house and takes fine athletes and makes them ****houses complete with ****house excuses for their ****house abilities.
It's not "mma boxing" it's just poor boxing. It's not "mma feints" the superman punch is ****ing ******ed period.
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Good job.You actually check back on these threads to see what to reply to, lmao. Get a life. Have a great day defending and explaining underwear wrestling on a boxing forum. Don’t forget your cape and Scooby-Doo lunchboxLast edited by CaneloBlue; 04-28-2022, 05:15 PM.Comment
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Boxing is a legendary sport, MMA is new on the block and I do watch some MMA fights, but I only care about throwing punches, stand up fighting. When they go to the ground in MMA i lose all interest.
MMA seems like barn yard fighting more than highly skilled athletes fighting with discipline.Comment
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Boxing is a legendary sport, MMA is new on the block and I do watch some MMA fights, but I only care about throwing punches, stand up fighting. When they go to the ground in MMA i lose all interest.
MMA seems like barn yard fighting more than highly skilled athletes fighting with discipline.Comment
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Boxing just seems way more polished to me, MMA fighters are jack-of-all trades if they want to compete. Most fighters are more specialized than others in certain areas, but they easily get beaten by let's say a Muay Thai boxer or a Kickboxer professional if only striking was involved. Same with Grappling. It is just not as enticing to watch unless they rank at the top of their division though even that is not always the case.Comment
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