Al Haymon CANNOT create stars

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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #31
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
    He can't, it's just fact.

    He has all the top afro Americans who in eras past would be box office and nobody knows who these guys are.

    They stop needing to sign for Al Haymon anonymous boxing champions
    What??? He’s not trying too. He just finds undefeated fighters to leach money out of till they get old. He’s a money parasite.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #32
      Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan

      You're absolutely delusional if your giving wilder all the credit for the success of the fight. Also I want a source on the record breaking gate your talking claiming.

      Spencer's as well as stanks ppv numbers have been getting lower to the point they dont even release the real numbers. Don't know why you're insisting that they're stars.
      Where did I give him all the credit? It’s clear he was a driving force behind PPV sales in the US though, I’m one of the biggest Fury fans on here but Wilder was undoubtedly a key factor in them producing a ATG trilogy both in the ring and out of it.

      Again man, compared to their peers Tank’s and certainly Spence’s numbers are good.

      Stop being on of these anti-PBC weirdo’s and be objective.

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        #33
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        Where did I give him all the credit? It’s clear he was a driving force behind PPV sales in the US though, I’m one of the biggest Fury fans on here but Wilder was undoubtedly a key factor in them producing a ATG trilogy both in the ring and out of it.

        Again man, compared to their peers Tank’s and certainly Spence’s numbers are good.

        Stop being on of these anti-PBC weirdo’s and be objective.
        The irony. You're not being objective your being a pro pbc fangirl. Spencer and tanks numbers are good despite gradually getting lower and lower to the point they don't even release the numbers makes sense

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        • KillaMane26
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          #34
          Why does PBC get singled out? I don't see other promoters creating stars?

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            #35
            Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan

            The irony. You're not being objective your being a pro pbc fangirl. Spencer and tanks numbers are good despite gradually getting lower and lower to the point they don't even release the numbers makes sense
            I’m not pro PBC whatsoever, this is what you weirdo’s always say to anybody who doesn’t vengefully despise PBC like you do. I call PBC out all the time- look at my posts about Ortiz-Martin or Thurman-Barrios, but when they produce good fights I give them credit. I’m objective, you’re not.

            Name me 10 current fighters doing better numbers than Spence and Tank? I GUARANTEE you can’t. Whether you like it or not they’re doing better numbers than 99% of other fighters. As I keep saying: “compared to their peers their numbers are good”.

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            • Sctrojan
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              #36
              It's difficult to create true "star" in today's landscape when most fighters are so inactive and fighting inferior competition. Both Canelo and AJ were propelled early in thier careers with high profile/great fights and have the looks/charisma to go along with it.

              Most fighters today aren't willing to sell themselves or take on early challenges to go anywhere and seem to be content on taking decent paydays fighting weak competition,rinse and repeat. Yes,theres a few who are willing like Kambo,Loma,Shakur,Choco,Usyk,Taylor etc but it takes a multitude of scenarios to come together for you to become one of those breakthrough stars,not easy and certainly luck plays a part as well imo.

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                #37
                Originally posted by KillaMane26
                Why does PBC get singled out? I don't see other promoters creating stars?
                PBC has the most talented stable of potential stars and does the least with them.

                ​​​​​​Honestly African American fans should be demanding more instead of blindly supporting pbc.

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

                  PBC has the most talented stable of potential stars and does the least with them.

                  ​​​​​​Honestly African American fans should be demanding more instead of blindly supporting pbc.
                  But I think it's a boxing problem and not specifically PBC. But I get your point, especially when it comes to the Charlos

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                  • Heru
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                    #39
                    PBC’s marketing and matchmaking is poor.

                    Social media is a collection of free platforms to market fighters, where you can gauge a fighters’ following, and they’re getting washed by the other promoters.

                    Top Rank drums up interest for a fighter that isn’t even a contender yet (Berlanga) dwarfing superior prospects like Antonio Russell (almost 100x more followers) and Ennis and rivaling the Charlo’s; with Conor Benn beating all of them out. There’s few reasons why Shakur Stevenson’s following rivals Errol Spence’s and Haney has more followers, while Spence has been a champion for twice as long and has had the better opposition.

                    While Errol’s car accident and eye injury that prevented the Pacquiao fight is bad luck, he’s faced a who who of the Welterweights aside from Crawford. There’s no excuse for his or the other PBC fighters’ numbers, it’s incompetence.

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