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  • landotter
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    #21
    I am glad the saga is over, an opponent is selected, and the fight is just happening. But I am interested to see how being the champ, at home, and celebrated hero as opposed to being the motivated underdog effects Kambosos.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #22
      Originally posted by Tag, You're Hit

      Good observations. As for weigh in's, maybe there should be some limits for weight gains on the day of the fight (2nd day weigh ins) like they have in some situations (IBF for title fights, for instance). But, everyone is under the same rules. Some choose to gain as much weight as possible and deal with the consequences, others prefer to stay closer to their natural weight and gain the benefits of that, with Lopez-Kambosos being a prime example of both types. And some fighters will always find an excuse.
      The day before weigh in rule needs to be eliminated. I am disillusioned with the lower weight divisions these days.

      If you have been tracking my posts of late, which I don't expect you to do.

      I have been extremely intense about, the idea of reintroducing the same day weigh in rule.

      I will try and find the topic.

      I cannot be bothered repeating my views right now, as I stated all that need to be said awhile back.

      One moment. Below is pretty much my stance on weight draining culture, the day before weigh in rule, and the re-introduction of the same day weigh in rule etc.

      I have also posted the thread link.

      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      Weight draining is not reality for all fighters.

      Did Floyd Mayweather weight drain himself? No he did not. And I have also mentioned other top elite level fighters, who never bought into the weight draining culture. Those fighters are Carl Froch & Bernard Hopkins.

      From reading your posts, and having a mild back and fourth debate with you. I honestly think you have been affected by the weight draining culture. Maybe you have witnessed too much, maybe you have become too accepting 'That it exists, and that it will continue to factor'.

      Why else would you be expecting all boxers to weight drain themselves?

      On some level, you must have universally accepted weight draining & boxing competition as a partnership. This ultimately is the cult of weight draining, and how it has permeated throughout the sport. It is new age phenomenon, that did not exist going back in history.

      If fighters want to weight drain themselves, during the same day weigh in rules 'Then they will all learn the hard way'. Eventually they will all be forced to limit big weight cuts, effectively eliminating the weight draining culture from boxing.

      The facts are that, weight draining negativity affects the competition within the lower weight classes. There are no positives which come out of weight draining. The evidence is all out there, boxing fans witness the negative affects of weight draining every single, week, month and year.

      It is backwards ideology and culture, that needs to be eliminated from the sport. And the best way to do that, is by re-introducing the same day weigh in rule once again.

      So I gather that your argument is, that boxing should stick with the day before weigh in rule. Because it is safer for the fighters, who want to weight drain themselves. So even though you have attended educational courses, and taught combat sports professionally? And know the negative short term to long term affects of weight draining. You STILL think it is best that fighters are allowed to exploit the rules and weight drain themselves?

      M111, I have listened to your points, and I have considered them. And I don't think your points are not good enough. They are not good enough, to counter anything in my argument 'Deep down you know this'.

      My argument, and my points are emphatic. My disdain is apparent, and it is clear that I am not accepting of the culture.

      Do not accept weight draining culture, do not empower it. It is not impossible or inconceivable, that it can be eliminated from boxing. And that elimination starts here, it starts right now.

      Boxing fans, boxers and the sport itself will have to take a stance at some point. Because I do not think it is in the fighters or sports best interest, if this Weight Draining culture is allowed to be continually empowered. This is a matter of health and safety, this is a concern for the fighters well being in the short term and long term 'And it is also a matter of promoting pure uninhibited competition'.

      All the best.
      https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...strating/page4
      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-01-2022, 04:46 PM.

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      • Tag, You're Hit
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        #23
        I don't disagree with you. I also don't know the path to get there. I would think boxers and trainers would have to be the ones leading the charge. We fans can't even seem to get boxers/promoters/networks to regularly give us the "best fighting the best", no matter how much lip speak they give to it (talking to you, Showtime).

        Question for you: why are the lower weight divisions of most concern to you?

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