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  • John Locke
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    #31
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Can you name a Top 5 or 10 ranked fighter he’s dropped or stopped or not?

    Simple question.
    You're being stubborn grandad. Thurman has proven throughout his career that he's a puncher, by hurting opponents in every fight. A lot of top fighters don't hurt opponents, therefore aren't punchers. And generally when you get to the top 10 world level, guys aren't getting stopped very often, that's why they are in the top 10 to begin with. Fighters who have been in the ring with Thurman are on record saying he can really crack, like Danny Garcia, who else has buckled him the way Thurman did in round 1?

    Collazo, Guerrero, Chaves were top all lower top 10 fighters I believe and Thurman either dropped or stopped them, even though that's not the only way of determining if somebody is a puncher or not. There are lots of variables that come into play on fight night like your timing, accuracy, opponent's approach etc.

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      #32
      Originally posted by John Locke

      You're being stubborn grandad. Thurman has proven throughout his career that he's a puncher, by hurting opponents in every fight. A lot of top fighters don't hurt opponents, therefore aren't punchers. And generally when you get to the top 10 world level, guys aren't getting stopped very often, that's why they are in the top 10 to begin with. Fighters who have been in the ring with Thurman are on record saying he can really crack, like Danny Garcia, who else has buckled him the way Thurman did in round 1?

      Collazo, Guerrero, Chaves were top all lower top 10 fighters I believe and Thurman either dropped or stopped them, even though that's not the only way of determining if somebody is a puncher or not. There are lots of variables that come into play on fight night like your timing, accuracy, opponent's approach etc.
      Collazo was a cut. Collazo actually hurt Thurman way worse than Thurman hurt him.

      Guerrero began his career at Featherweight, Thurman never looked close to stopping him either.

      And then Diego Chaves wasn’t ever a legitimate contender, I mean who did he ever beat? He got that draw against Bradley and even then that’s a fight he should have lost IMO.

      I fully agree with IDH tbh man, Thurman ain’t ever proved he’s a puncher.

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        #33
        Well we know all the card carrying Floyd Boys will disrespect Thurman because Manny handled him. He was shot. Can't punch, etc.

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          #34
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

          I like both fighters. Crawford hasn’t stopped any top fighters either. Porter was battle fatigued and his style doesn’t lend itself to longevity. Crawford doesn’t take it to the body any better than Thurman, they both have been rocked to the body. I still favor Crawford to beat Thurman, and any other welterweight, but I think this one goes the distance in a close fight.
          Crawford stopping Porter is unquestionably legit. Porter looked just as good as he did vs Spence, Thurman etc in that fight.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            Collazo was a cut. Collazo actually hurt Thurman way worse than Thurman hurt him.

            Guerrero began his career at Featherweight, Thurman never looked close to stopping him either.

            And then Diego Chaves wasn’t ever a legitimate contender, I mean who did he ever beat? He got that draw against Bradley and even then that’s a fight he should have lost IMO.

            I fully agree with IDH tbh man, Thurman ain’t ever proved he’s a puncher.
            I was responding to your friend who kept asking me who Thurman and dropped or stopped in the top 10, the fighters I mentioned were lower top 10 when Thurman stopped or dropped them. I don't do the rankings, there are fighters in the top 10 right now that I don't agree with, but that's where they're ranked.

            But we can nit-pick anybody's resume, this guy moved up, that guy was shot, the other wasn't top 10, all ifs and buts. My arguments are based on facts and visuals.

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              #36
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              Crawford stopping Porter is unquestionably legit. Porter looked just as good as he did vs Spence, Thurman etc in that fight.
              Porter was as good in 2022, in the fight he retired after, as he was in 2016? Sounds legit

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                #37
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                Crawford stopping Porter is unquestionably legit. Porter looked just as good as he did vs Spence, Thurman etc in that fight.
                Good win, but Porter has take a lot of punishment in his career and has been in dog fights with Thurman, Garcia, Spence, Ugas, Brook, Broner, Granados, and Berto. He announced his retirement after the Crawford loss. He was done.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by John Locke

                  You're being stubborn grandad. Thurman has proven throughout his career that he's a puncher, by hurting opponents in every fight. A lot of top fighters don't hurt opponents, therefore aren't punchers. And generally when you get to the top 10 world level, guys aren't getting stopped very often, that's why they are in the top 10 to begin with. Fighters who have been in the ring with Thurman are on record saying he can really crack, like Danny Garcia, who else has buckled him the way Thurman did in round 1?

                  Collazo, Guerrero, Chaves were top all lower top 10 fighters I believe and Thurman either dropped or stopped them, even though that's not the only way of determining if somebody is a puncher or not. There are lots of variables that come into play on fight night like your timing, accuracy, opponent's approach etc.
                  Chavez and Collazo? No, neither were Top 10.

                  Guererro possibly was still Top 10. Can’t remember. Definitely wasn’t Top 5.

                  So we have one Top 10. Any top 5?

                  No mate, big punchers drop and stop top level guys. Any puncher you can name, has dropped or stopped a top ranked fighter or multiple.

                  Keith Thurman has not only done that, he’s failed to come close to stopping any of them, hasn’t dropped any of them and in his last fight failed to come anywhere close to stopping a Jr Welterweight who was knocked out by a Jr Lightweight.

                  If you think Thurman has any chance of stopping Crawford you live in a dream world. He never has stopped anyone on that level and never will.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by John Locke

                    I was responding to your friend who kept asking me who Thurman and dropped or stopped in the top 10, the fighters I mentioned were lower top 10 when Thurman stopped or dropped them. I don't do the rankings, there are fighters in the top 10 right now that I don't agree with, but that's where they're ranked.

                    But we can nit-pick anybody's resume, this guy moved up, that guy was shot, the other wasn't top 10, all ifs and buts. My arguments are based on facts and visuals.
                    Facts? You mean like those facts that Collazo and Chavez were in the Top 10 when they actually weren’t?

                    Here’s the actual facts;

                    Number of Top 5 guys stopped - 0

                    Number of Top 5 guys dropped - 0

                    Number of Top 10 guys stopped - 0

                    Number of Top 10 guys dropped - 1

                    Does that sound like a puncher to you?
                    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-01-2022, 01:13 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

                      I like both fighters. Crawford hasn’t stopped any top fighters either. Porter was battle fatigued and his style doesn’t lend itself to longevity. Crawford doesn’t take it to the body any better than Thurman, they both have been rocked to the body. I still favor Crawford to beat Thurman, and any other welterweight, but I think this one goes the distance in a close fight.
                      Porter was in the Top 5 so that’s 1 more than Thurman but Crawford isn’t a concussive puncher either but he certainly hits harder than Thurman.

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