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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by John Locke

    Thurman has visibly wobbled/buckled every opponent he's been in the ring with, with the exception of Pacman. To say he can't punch is wild.

    He has a better chance than anyone Crawford has been in the ring with thus far, Crawford has been hurt by lesser fighters. At this point in their careers, Crawford will be the betting favourite, but I've been following the sport for long enough to know this is a real fight and either guy is capable of winning.
    Oh yeah, so wild. What top 5 fighter has Thurman ever stopped again? Oh yeah none. What Top 5 fighter has he ever even dropped? None.

    Wobbling fighters make you a puncher now? I can’t even think of a Top 10 guy he’s stopped.

    He hit Barrios with everything plus the kitchen sink and was never anywhere close to stopping him or even dropping him yet T Rex arms Jr Lightweight Tank stopped him

    Couldn’t stop Lopez, who got smashed by Maidana.

    Couldn’t stop Bundu, never had him visibly hurt other than the flash KD in the first round.

    Couldn’t drop Porter who was stopped by Crawford, dropped by Spence and Adrien Broner.

    He never had any of the above in any kind of real trouble at any point despite hitting them all consistently.

    This is a sign that he is not a puncher. Which he’s not, that’s obvious.

    Thurman has NO chance with Crawford. What’s he going to do? Outbox him? No.

    He can’t hurt him, that we know.





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    • STREET CLEANER
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      #12
      Originally posted by hhh1200
      Crawford - Got a fake scorecard signal from Shakur. Stops Porter 30 secs later. Basically, he wanted to carry Porter to a 12 round UD, friend code.
      Brook - 100% controlled his bum rushes with a stiff jab and right
      Keef - Bunkled him at least 2 times in the fight
      Spence - Back and forth till Porter jumps into a counter
      LOL at Brook controlling that fight 100% of the time. It was a majority decision the Brook deserved but he held on an average of 14 times per rounds.

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        #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Thurman can’t punch. Has no chance of stopping Crawford and likely gets beaten up badly.
        I’ve said this for years mate. Never stopped anyone worth a damn. As soon as the competition level stepped up the knockouts immediately stopped.

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          #14
          If an old Pac gave him problems , I’d hate to see what Bud would do to him
          I’ll call it right now , Bud would ko him or corner would throw in the towel
          Keef would take a tremendous amount of punishment

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          • John Locke
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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Oh yeah, so wild. What top 5 fighter has Thurman ever stopped again? Oh yeah none. What Top 5 fighter has he ever even dropped? None.

            Wobbling fighters make you a puncher now? I can’t even think of a Top 10 guy he’s stopped.

            He hit Barrios with everything plus the kitchen sink and was never anywhere close to stopping him or even dropping him yet T Rex arms Jr Lightweight Tank stopped him

            Couldn’t stop Lopez, who got smashed by Maidana.

            Couldn’t stop Bundu, never had him visibly hurt other than the flash KD in the first round.

            Couldn’t drop Porter who was stopped by Crawford, dropped by Spence and Adrien Broner.

            He never had any of the above in any kind of real trouble at any point despite hitting them all consistently.

            This is a sign that he is not a puncher. Which he’s not, that’s obvious.

            Thurman has NO chance with Crawford. What’s he going to do? Outbox him? No.

            He can’t hurt him, that we know.




            Like I said, Thurman has hurt pretty much every fighter he's been in the ring with, most of them being champs and former champs. Somebody who can't punch can't visibly hurt and drop fighters in damn near every fight. Lets use Porter as an example, very good fighter, but he's more of output/wear you down type of guy. Thurman is explosive and can hurt you with single shots and counters, as the evidence suggests in almost every fight.

            I'm guessing the odds will have Thurman with a 4/1 Chance at worst, who are definitely more reputable than yourself. It wouldn't even be that big of an upset tbh, but you keep exaggerating away.

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              #16
              Originally posted by John Locke

              Like I said, Thurman has hurt pretty much every fighter he's been in the ring with, most of them being champs and former champs. Somebody who can't punch can't visibly hurt and drop fighters in damn near every fight. Lets use Porter as an example, very good fighter, but he's more of output/wear you down type of guy. Thurman is explosive and can hurt you with single shots and counters, as the evidence suggests in almost every fight.

              I'm guessing the odds will have Thurman with a 4/1 Chance at worst, who are definitely more reputable than yourself. It wouldn't even be that big of an upset tbh, but you keep exaggerating away.
              Can you name me one fighter that was ranked in the Top 5 that he’s stopped or even dropped?

              Can you name me one fighter in the Top 10 he’s dropped or stopped?

              He’s not a puncher, he’s just not. There is nothing to suggest he is a big puncher. He’s got some pop obviously he’s not pillow fisted but he’s far away from a big puncher and has 0% chance of stopping Crawford.

              Realistically Thurman needs to beat someone decent before even getting a fight with Crawford. When was the last time Thurman beat a ranked fighter? About 5 years ago or something.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                If an old Pac gave him problems , I’d hate to see what Bud would do to him
                I’ll call it right now , Bud would ko him or corner would throw in the towel
                Keef would take a tremendous amount of punishment
                Problems? Pacquaio battered him.

                That was an embarrassing performance. For a young, prime, new era Welterweight to get battered by a 40 year old Pacquaio was a total embarrassment on his behalf.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Thurman can’t punch. Has no chance of stopping Crawford and likely gets beaten up badly.
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  What top 5 fighter has Thurman ever stopped again? Oh yeah none.

                  Thurman has NO chance with Crawford. What’s he going to do? Outbox him? No.

                  He can’t hurt him, that we know.
                  My word, you don't half talk some shit.

                  Of course Thurman can punch. Is he a KO artist? No, but he can crack well enough. To say he can't hurt Crawford is plain nonsense. He's hurt pretty much everyone he's fought at one point or another. Not to mention that both Gamboa and Mean Machine hurt Crawford - and remind me again, which top-five fighters have either of those two ever KO'ed? Because if the answer's none I might just have discovered a slight crack in that seemingly infallible logic of yours.

                  I wouldn't pick Thurman to beat Crawford but he does at least stand a chance, and to say he "can't punch" is quite honestly laughable. I wonder how many of his past opponents would agree with you? Danny Garcia rated him the second biggest puncher he's faced. That is to say harder than Spence, therefore I suppose Spence can't punch either.

                  Still, you know best Mr. Boxrec Warrior. If boxing matches were won and lost on paper you'd never be wrong.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Problems? Pacquaio battered him.

                    That was an embarrassing performance. For a young, prime, new era Welterweight to get battered by a 40 year old Pacquaio was a total embarrassment on his behalf.


                    I didn’t want to be so acute , glad you came out and did it lol

                    Bud really does a job on him maybe to the point of retirement

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      I’ve said this for years mate. Never stopped anyone worth a damn. As soon as the competition level stepped up the knockouts immediately stopped.
                      Absolutely.

                      Look at the common opponents. Spence knocked Bundu dead spark out whereas Thurman hit him with everything and was never anywhere close to have him in any trouble. And Spence is hardly a massive puncher himself.

                      I don’t think Thurman has dropped a single fighter ranked in the Top 10. If he has, it’s very seldom.

                      Buckling a fighters legs for a moment doesn’t make someone a puncher

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