Posters and their favoritism to certain promoters

[SplitSecond]

Loma-Campbell does count, I never said it didn’t. Hearn was still at Sky at the time though, things have changed now. Since Hearn/DAZN have forayed into the US market they haven’t worked with anybody else yet. Spin it however you want that’s a fact. Bob/ESPN and Haymon/PBC on the other hand have PROVEN they will work together, that’s my only point here. Just put your anti-PBC agenda aside and look at the facts.

You’re just one of these anti-PBC weirdo’s man. You literally called Wilder fighting Fury (the best HW of his generation) a “cherry pick”.

If that’s not agenda driven BS I don’t know what is…

PBC is trash. You only like it because you’re a cuck for your American broadcasting. All you have to look forward to with PBC are American lvl fights akin to brit lvl fights without ever stepping into world level and hoping for the cherries to turn out to be better than everyone imagined so you can tell us how it wasn’t a cherry. Which is why no one respects any of the resume’s these guys have.

Wilder, Tyson & his dad have all admitted Fury was a cherry. That Wilder/Haymon took a small risk of rectifying a blemish on his record against a guy everyone was still underestimating “Fury can’t stop Wilder” “He has to be perfect for 12 rounds” “Wilder only has to hit him once”, doesn’t change the fact it was a horrible cherrypick gone wrong. There was nothing to lose in the third fight, so why not take it.

Funny that Arum the guy PBC has “proven” to work with has even said PBC is a cancer. I wonder has he ever gotten a 50-50 fight from PBC, between two champs. How about sharing some of his top fighters? I doubt it. Cherries for life till Haymon can cash out their asses to Canelo.

[SplitSecond]

“Well, you know, I don’t think Haymon and PBC is doing a service for boxing. Every other promoter shares their fighters — put fighters in with the other guys’ fighters. There is never a problem as long as the fight is right. With Haymon it’s impossible. He keeps his fighters internally fighting each other. He doesn’t do great business with them. I don’t know where he’s coming from but that doesn’t help to grow the sport.”

“Haymon just keeps his fighters to himself. He won’t share his fighters like Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren. He really is a cancer on the sport.”

-Bob Arum. Friend of Al Haymon.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

PBC is trash. You only like it because you’re a cuck for your American broadcasting.

I’m British you f***ing moron. I couldn’t give a f*** about “American broadcasting”.

Your vengeful hate towards PBC just blinds you of any logic or reason. There’s no point debating with a delusional idiot.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Let’s be clear- this started whenever anyone defended pbc against the ridiculous posts stating they are cancer to the sport and they need to be eliminated.

When a poster who said this for cornered, they called the poster a PBC or Haymon groupie or fans to try and shift from having to tell us honestly why Haymon was the only promoter they wanted out despite them all behaving the same way. I mean it was fairly obvious but that is for another thread.

I thought the majority of the attacks against PBC were motivated by something else so I posted out against them.

The same thing was said about anyone that didn’t like DAZN or pointed out the negatives. Since there as no way to refute those claims, the had to attack the poster as a fan or groupie in hopes of signaling to others.

Finally, that label was given to anyone that talked about business. Anyone in their right mind should be able to understand why pbc stopped working with everyone after hbo cut ties.

The same people celebrating that then watched pbc get successful on their own and they decided they were the problem.

Each promoter and network has put on good fights and bad ones. There are problems with each. No one is perfect.

Looking at the replies in this thread, you’re spot on Dunn. The PBC hate is weird man.

[SplitSecond]

I’m British you f***ing moron. I couldn’t give a f*** about “American broadcasting”.

Your vengeful hate towards PBC just blinds you of any logic or reason. There’s no point debating with a delusional idiot.

That just makes you a bigger cuck. I haven’t said anything anyone else in the business hasn’t said. You keep stroking that pipe though.

[DaNeutral.]

“Well, you know, I don’t think Haymon and PBC is doing a service for boxing. Every other promoter shares their fighters — put fighters in with the other guys’ fighters. There is never a problem as long as the fight is right. With Haymon it’s impossible. He keeps his fighters internally fighting each other. He doesn’t do great business with them. I don’t know where he’s coming from but that doesn’t help to grow the sport.”

“Haymon just keeps his fighters to himself. He won’t share his fighters like Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren. He really is a cancer on the sport.”

-Bob Arum. Friend of Al Haymon.

Lol good luck trying to get anybody to acknowledge that little statement from Crispy Bob.

The reality is they are all at it. They are all putting their business ahead of the fighters and the fighters legacies. But in my opinion the biggest culprits by far have been the PBC and this has been the reason I have had such an issue on this forum with the PBC.

Certain numptys on here call me racist for beating on the PBC cuz it's run by a black man but Wilder could of been undisputed and 100 million better off but Haymon was against it. Spence, Charlo, GRJ, Luis Ortiz and plenty of others have had fantastic opportunities refused, denied, knocked back and so on. That's black fighters careers stunted or under achieved because the man at the helm don't give a fkk about them.

The other promoters can be accused of being the same but they seem to have a limit before they give their fighters the chance to do something

[kafkod]

However, one thing I’ll give to Haymon/PBC and Arum/TR is they will work together to make big fights happen now and then such as Fury-Wilder 2 & 3 and Crawford-Porter for example. Hearn/DAZN on the other hand seem incapable of doing so yet always try and play the victim as if everyone else is the problem when actions clearly suggest otherwise.

It's hilarious that you are so lacking in self awareness as to post that in a thread asking why certain posters are stuck on loving and or hating promotional companies.

One explanation is British posters like you bringing their UK football culture attitudes into boxing discussions. Football culture is as much about hating, blaming and belittling the opposition as it is about supporting your own team.

You give yourself away with by talking about "Matchroom FC fans" and similar bull****.

[kafkod]

Actions > Words man. PBC have PROVED they’ll work with TR and Vice versa, Matchroom is yet to do so. Like them or not they did right by the sport with Fury-Wilder and Crawford-Porter.

Neither Hooker vs Ramirez or GGG-Murata are co promotions, do your research on them. The first was solely promoted by Hearn and the GGG fight is Teiken promotions I think and will be solely distributed by DAZN neither Bob or ESPN are involved. It’s like saying Frank and Eddie are working together on Fury-Whyte when it’s all Frank and he’s freezing Eddie out completely.

Some promoters won't allow their "name" guys to fight anybody signed with a rival outfit unless they get a slice of the pie themselves, with a co-promotion. Others, like Eddie Hearn, are willing to step aside if that's what it takes to let a big fight happen. You are being very disingenuous characterising Hearn's willingness to do that as refusing to work with other promoters.

[kafkod]

Lol. I didn’t realise your criteria was only co-promotions. Yes. PBC are way more **** about letting anyone off their island. We all know. Shouldn’t have mentioned Porter-Crawford then neither as that was no co-promotion. PBC did exactly ZERO promotion for that fight.

He's caught me out before with the same trick. Apparently, "working with other promoters" can have different meanings, depending on the agenda being plugged.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That just makes you a bigger cuck. I haven’t said anything anyone else in the business hasn’t said. You keep stroking that pipe though.

Absolutely no logic behind that.

Did Al Haymon touch you up as a child or something? This seems very personal to you.

F***ing weirdo…