Posters and their favoritism to certain promoters

[mxtali]

Actions > Words man. PBC have PROVED they’ll work with TR and Vice versa, Matchroom is yet to do so. Like them or not they did right by the sport with Fury-Wilder and Crawford-Porter.

Neither Hooker vs Ramirez or GGG-Murata are co promotions, do your research on them. The first was solely promoted by Hearn and the GGG fight is Teiken promotions I think and will be solely distributed by DAZN neither Bob or ESPN are involved. It’s like saying Frank and Eddie are working together on Fury-Whyte when it’s all Frank and he’s freezing Eddie out completely.

If Hooker and Ramirez wasn’t a co promotion than neither was Porter vs Bud. That was Porter going to ESPN, and it was a full ESPN TR production was it not? True super fight co promotions like Wilder Fury are extremely rare.

[PeepeePoopooMan]

Its obvious pbc has no interest in working with anyone.

[Toffee]

They all have their faults, some more than others and they’re all capable of making great cards once in a while, again some more than others.

However, one thing I’ll give to Haymon/PBC and Arum/TR is they will work together to make big fights happen now and then such as Fury-Wilder 2 & 3 and Crawford-Porter for example. Hearn/DAZN on the other hand seem incapable of doing so yet always try and play the victim as if everyone else is the problem when actions clearly suggest otherwise. If these three outfits could just put their ego’s aside and make the best fights more often there would be far less dissension between fanbases.

They're fighting their own battles. Arum and Haymon will work with Hearn if it suits them... but generally it doesn't. Hearn is fighting the OTT fight, Haymon and Arum are sticking with what made them.

I very much doubt it's personal, just business.

Generally it's us that suffer. And fighters. But these guys run boxing until somebody knocks them off their perch.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If Hooker and Ramirez wasn’t a co promotion than neither was Porter vs Bud. That was Porter going to ESPN, and it was a full ESPN TR production was it not? True super fight co promotions like Wilder Fury are extremely rare.

Ramirez-Hooker was solely promoted by Hearn. Crawford-Porter was a co-promotion between Arum and Tom Brown.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/790010

https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353

There it is in black and white mate.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

They're fighting their own battles. Arum and Haymon will work with Hearn if it suits them... but generally it doesn't. Hearn is fighting the OTT fight, Haymon and Arum are sticking with what made them.

I very much doubt it's personal, just business.

Generally it's us that suffer. And fighters. But these guys run boxing until somebody knocks them off their perch.

Yeah I pretty much agree man, if there’s a big enough fight/profit to be made I imagine these guys could and would put their differences aside. Just a shame it happens so infrequently for the fans.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Lol. I didn’t realise your criteria was only co-promotions. Yes. PBC are way more **** about letting anyone off their island. We all know. Shouldn’t have mentioned Porter-Crawford then neither as that was no co-promotion. PBC did exactly ZERO promotion for that fight.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353

It was a co-promotion.

Just stop with the agenda driven BS and keep it factual.

[SplitSecond]

https://boxrec.com/en/event/839353

It was a co-promotion.

Just with the agenda driven BS and keep it factual.

Lol. I knew you’re reasoning was because you see Tom Brown’s name in boxrec. Like I said, PBC did no promotion. Campbell-Lomachenko had everyone promoting the fight, like an actual “co-promotion”. You need to stop with this sad stretch-arm strong attempt.

It doesn’t matter who goes where, all that matters is the fights happen. And a company that can only play with others when they have nothing to lose is useless to the sport. You can see this clearly with the sport picking back up with PBC’s shrinking. They wasted the career of basically every fighter they got their hands on, only good for stealing your money, but keep cheerleading for your “team” while they take you from behind.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Lol. I knew you’re reasoning was because you see Tom Brown’s name in boxrec. Like I said, PBC did no promotion. Campbell-Lomachenko had everyone promoting the fight, like an actual “co-promotion”. You need to stop with this sad stretch-arm strong attempt.

It doesn’t matter who goes where, all that matters is the fights happen. And a company that can only play with others when they have nothing to lose is useless to the sport. You can see this clearly with the sport picking back up with PBC’s shrinking. They wasted the career of basically every fighter they got their hands on, only good for stealing your money, but keep cheerleading for your “team” while they take you from behind.

Again, stop with the agenda driven BS and stick to the facts.

TR and PBC have worked together on several co-promotions. Matchroom USA are yet to do so. I hope they do, I hope they all work together as much as possible cause that way the fans win.

[SplitSecond]

Again, stop with the agenda driven BS and stick to the facts.

TR and PBC have worked together on several co-promotions. Matchroom USA are yet to do so. I hope they do, I hope they all work together as much as possible cause that way the fans win.

Oh god, now it’s Matchroom USA. Hearn sending a fighter to ESPN doesn’t count, Arum sending a fighter to Hearn doesn’t count. Campbell-Lomachenko doesn’t count. What’s my mission now, to boxrec warrior “Matchroom USA”?

Let’s hope PBC going poor opens up the island to ingoings and out.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Oh god, now it’s Matchroom USA. Hearn sending a fighter to ESPN doesn’t count, Arum sending a fighter to Hearn doesn’t count. Campbell-Lomachenko doesn’t count. What’s my mission now, to boxrec warrior “Matchroom USA”?

Let’s hope PBC going poor opens up the island to ingoings and out.

Loma-Campbell does count, I never said it didn’t. Hearn was still at Sky at the time though, things have changed now. Since Hearn/DAZN have forayed into the US market they haven’t worked with anybody else yet. Spin it however you want that’s a fact. Bob/ESPN and Haymon/PBC on the other hand have PROVEN they will work together, that’s my only point here. Just put your anti-PBC agenda aside and look at the facts.

You’re just one of these anti-PBC weirdo’s man. You literally called Wilder fighting Fury (the best HW of his generation) a “cherry pick”.

If that’s not agenda driven BS I don’t know what is…