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  • BodyBagz
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    #21
    Originally posted by clmags12

    May has more skill than JMM and Pac. Yeah, so. Why keep bragging about it? Lol. No one cares.

    The rivalry between Juan and Manny can go either way depending on who you are a greater fan of or just like their different style. But in their case it was heads up ALL fights. No argument if you say JMM is a greater fighter but resume wise, no.
    May has a connection to them all.

    JMM is 15 years older than Pac.

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      #22
      Originally posted by djtmal
      Oscar beats the brakes off Marquez. Marquez isn't that good of a welterweight and Oscar being a dead man walking is every Floyd Boys stock excuse
      How can he not be dead man walking you idiot, 145 weighin 2lb gain in 30 hrs, IV tracks in his arm, hadn't been near 147 in 12 yrs, looked like sht at 150lbs in his previous fight against a soft punching LW.

      And on top of all the pre fight information freely available, then there was his performance it was terrible flat-footed no power no resistance, what is also known in boxing as deadman walking, listen to the commentary and count how m,any times they comment on how ****** out Oscar is..

      Then go look at a younger Oscar at 154 KOing a MW and at 154 fighting Floyd, the difference in power intensity strength and stamina was chalk and cheese.

      Youre a deadbeat idiot with your head so far up Manny ass you cant see anything to do with him or Floyd without it being smeared in sht.

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        #23
        De La Hoya would use his height and reach advantage to keep Marquez on the end of his punches. Oscar would win the counter punch war. Marquez isn’t as aggressive as Manny, he would sit back and try to counter Oscar, but Oscar would have all the advantages and plenty of time to fight his fight without Marquez being on the attack. Oscar by UD.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          De La Hoya would use his height and reach advantage to keep Marquez on the end of his punches. Oscar would win the counter punch war. Marquez isn’t as aggressive as Manny, he would sit back and try to counter Oscar, but Oscar would have all the advantages and plenty of time to fight his fight without Marquez being on the attack. Oscar by UD.
          Oscar is gassed inside 6 rounds., that was the worst version of Oscar to ever set foot in a ring, Oscar would destroy both Manny and JMM at 135 but an old badly drained version is no match for any top liner near the weight, that's why Steve Forbes gave him such a torrid time at 150 let alone another 3lbs lighter on fight night, the Manny fanboys have no idea how messed up Oscar was, which was none of Manny's fault Oscar just fcked up badly, but that was a shadow of the real Odh.

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            #25
            The oscar at 147 vs manny was a dead man walking. Marquez by stoppage

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              #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock

              Oscar is gassed inside 6 rounds., that was the worst version of Oscar to ever set foot in a ring, Oscar would destroy both Manny and JMM at 135 but an old badly drained version is no match for any top liner near the weight, that's why Steve Forbes gave him such a torrid time at 150 let alone another 3lbs lighter on fight night, the Manny fanboys have no idea how messed up Oscar was, which was none of Manny's fault Oscar just fcked up badly, but that was a shadow of the real Odh.
              - - Shadow of Oscar melted U candyboy without throwing punch > than any version of TBE TUE 50-0.

              Tenshin in da house!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by paulf
                Even at the peak of his prime, guys who boxed and counterpunched could give De La Hoya trouble. Like Manny, he really shined against punchers/pressure fighters.

                Marquez was still very sharp in the third fight with Pacquiao, whereas Oscar looked like Klitschko against Joshua - the ring IQ was still there, but the reflexes were gone and he was punching in slow motion.

                That Marquez would have picked that DLH apart, UD 12.
                That one was roided

                I am speaking of the fat slow Marquez that drank his piss and ate bird eggs against Floyd

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by clmags12

                  May has more skill than JMM and Pac. Yeah, so. Why keep bragging about it? Lol. No one cares.

                  The rivalry between Juan and Manny can go either way depending on who you are a greater fan of or just like their different style. But in their case it was heads up ALL fights. No argument if you say JMM is a greater fighter but resume wise, no.
                  There are guys that just do better against certain guys. JMM jacked off to Pacquiao and was obsessed with him.

                  So JMM does well against Pacquiao, doesn't mean he beats plenty of other guys.

                  Some guys just have someone’s number. Norton was that guy for Ali. Norton got knocked the f out by Foreman

                  marquez against:
                  diaz W(but Diaz did just beat morales)
                  de la hoya L
                  hatton L
                  cotto L
                  clottey L
                  margarito L
                  bradley L
                  shane W (questionable since we don't really know how he'd do with shane's style)
                  rios W(still questionable but probably a baby bull type of performance)
                  algieri W(still in the air too with algieri's length)
                  vargas L(vargas drops him and plus vargas has a long jab)
                  horn L (austrailia robbery)
                  matthysse W
                  broner W(in the air since he hasn't shown to do good with this style)
                  thurman(L)
                  ugas(L)

                  6-11(and of these 6, I think only the Diaz and Lucas one is no debate there, the other wins seems like he could lose those as well)

                  I always compare it to metallo and superman. metallo does great against superman, but put him in with anyone else and he looks ordinary/mediocre

                  another funny thing is folks always say how greatly matched pacquiao was to make him look good. couldn't the same be said for marquez? I mean a lot of the fights he looked good at were the come forward face first guys weren't they? who'd he really beat that had movement and was a bad match up style wise for him? guys who could box and had movement he lost to. the ones he beat who could box(marco and joel) were way passed it
                  Last edited by HrNY; 03-29-2022, 10:06 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                    De La Hoya would use his height and reach advantage to keep Marquez on the end of his punches. Oscar would win the counter punch war. Marquez isn’t as aggressive as Manny, he would sit back and try to counter Oscar, but Oscar would have all the advantages and plenty of time to fight his fight without Marquez being on the attack. Oscar by UD.
                    Can't forget too how Oscar is the name and Marquez is always "getting robbed". If "fat" Marquez kept it close and went 12 with "dead man" Oscar, Oscar is the name so of course he'd also get the decision

                    It's hilarious how folks shit on how bad Oscar was, yet Oscar was the favorite to win it(also betting favorite). Wasn't there a thing where people said Oscar was going to beat Manny with his jab alone? lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by HrNY

                      Can't forget too how Oscar is the name and Marquez is always "getting robbed". If "fat" Marquez kept it close and went 12 with "dead man" Oscar, Oscar is the name so of course he'd also get the decision

                      It's hilarious how folks shit on how bad Oscar was, yet Oscar was the favorite to win it(also betting favorite). Wasn't there a thing where people said Oscar was going to beat Manny with his jab alone? lol
                      Oscar was robbed way more than JMM. He was robbed against Floyd and Mosley in the rematch. Not to mention Mosley was likely juiced for both fights. He was also robbed in the Trinidad fight, though he does get some of the blame for trying to coast those last few rounds. JMM has never been robbed despite all the Manny haters who think he won. In fact, Manny was robbed in their first fight because judge Clements never scored the third knockdown in round one for Manny, otherwise that draw is a win for Manny.

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