He was doing what you were supposed to be doing, Gennadiy....fight. YOU were the one holding out for one last payday because you didn't like your chances of not landing a 3rd fight. Canelo has won titles at 168 and 175 since BEATING Golovkin....and he even became Undisputed at 168.
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Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
What like fighting in 2 middleweight WBC tile fight's at 155lb Catchweights. Like slapping a rehydration clause on Danny Jacobs in a WBC IBF & WBA Middleweight unification fight. Or are you talking about the risk Canelo took when he only allowed Kovalev an 8 week turnaround from fighting Anthony Yarde before also placing a career first rehydration clause on him at 36 years old... GTFO! Only Canelo dong swallowers such as your self fall for his asterix ridden career. Of course, I also forgot about that risk Canelo took when he knowingly took clenbuterol to try to get an edge over Golovkin in the rematch.
At least when Golovkin fights he fights FAIR with no advantages his way - you can't say this about Canelo... He's had things stacked in his favour for so long, and if it doesn't go to plan he always has the judges to bail him out. To think he already had the judges working for him at 23 years old when he fought Mayweather to get that 114-114 scorecard is incredible! That's 9 years and counting. Baring a KO its virtually impossible to beat or get a draw against Canelo (unless you're GGG)
All I'm going to say is look at the way Canelo's physique has changed throughout the years - he has definitely been on the juice in stages during his career. For example compare the physique he had in the 1st GGG fight - extremely muscular (why he gassed as early as round 6) to the rematch where he was much more smaller and leaner (the clenbuterol aided this) then to the Jacobs fight where he looked thicker and stronger, then to the Kovalev fight where he looked slightly fat with a visible belly, then to the Amir Khan fight where he looked like a 175lb'er, then when he went down to 154lb to fight Smith and looked skinny etc... I could go on. Even Eddie Hearn commented on this very issue suggesting Canelo had used steroids before co- promoting his fights.
At the end of the day there has been 4 fighters now who have popped dirty from Reynoso's gym - you'd be a fool to think that his star pupil Canelo has not actually been one of them and instead believe all the tainted beef crap. They must have all sorts of substances at their disposal to pick from excluding steroids to help with stamina, weight cutting, focus etc. Its these very things which have aided Canelo in going up and down the weights but his luck won't last for long and I genuinely believe Bivol's fast feet will be too much for him.
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Originally posted by Nash out View PostOnce Golovkin pulls off his elite-tier win over Murata, who, very much like Lennox Lewis, has beaten every man he has ever faced, he will then get his 3rd win over Canelo, then head off into the sunset as Canelo cries for a 4th shot, just like Pacquiao cried for his 5th shot of trying to beat Marquez. Some guys just have your number. Nash out.
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Ggg only wants to get his ass handed to him again cash big paycheck and ride to sunset retirement,that if he manage to beat murata first and canelo beat bivol which btw it even more complicated rival
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All I want out of a trilogy match (if it actually happens) is being able to read the comment threads. Oh, how I have missed the insanity of these. There are some people I swear only post about GGG or Canelo. To see these verbal train wrecks in print is just a slice of fried gold.
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Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz View Post
What like fighting in 2 middleweight WBC tile fight's at 155lb Catchweights. Like slapping a rehydration clause on Danny Jacobs in a WBC IBF & WBA Middleweight unification fight. Or are you talking about the risk Canelo took when he only allowed Kovalev an 8 week turnaround from fighting Anthony Yarde before also placing a career first rehydration clause on him at 36 years old... GTFO! Only Canelo dong swallowers such as your self fall for his asterix ridden career. Of course, I also forgot about that risk Canelo took when he knowingly took clenbuterol to try to get an edge over Golovkin in the rematch.
At least when Golovkin fights he fights FAIR with no advantages his way - you can't say this about Canelo... He's had things stacked in his favour for so long, and if it doesn't go to plan he always has the judges to bail him out. To think he already had the judges working for him at 23 years old when he fought Mayweather to get that 114-114 scorecard is incredible! That's 9 years and counting. Baring a KO its virtually impossible to beat or get a draw against Canelo (unless you're GGG)
All I'm going to say is look at the way Canelo's physique has changed throughout the years - he has definitely been on the juice in stages during his career. For example compare the physique he had in the 1st GGG fight - extremely muscular (why he gassed as early as round 6) to the rematch where he was much more smaller and leaner (the clenbuterol aided this) then to the Jacobs fight where he looked thicker and stronger, then to the Kovalev fight where he looked slightly fat with a visible belly, then to the Amir Khan fight where he looked like a 175lb'er, then when he went down to 154lb to fight Smith and looked skinny etc... I could go on. Even Eddie Hearn commented on this very issue suggesting Canelo had used steroids before co- promoting his fights.
At the end of the day there has been 4 fighters now who have popped dirty from Reynoso's gym - you'd be a fool to think that his star pupil Canelo has not actually been one of them and instead believe all the tainted beef crap. They must have all sorts of substances at their disposal to pick from excluding steroids to help with stamina, weight cutting, focus etc. Its these very things which have aided Canelo in going up and down the weights but his luck won't last for long and I genuinely believe Bivol's fast feet will be too much for him.
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Cotto was the one who decided their weight. Btw, besides not moving up, GGG also said he'd move down but backtracked on that too. He wanted all the hype when he had no intention of following through.
Bringing up Jacobs is a perfect example of the ridiculous hypocrisy from GGG fans: In both GGG-Jacobs and Canelo-Jacobs there was a 10lb morning check-in in place, and in both fights Jacobs blew it. However, GGG fanboys lost their minds in his scenario calling Jacobs a weight bully and talking about poor GGG having to face a bigger middleweight, yet they had the complete opposite take in Canelo's scenario, saying 10lb checkins should only apply to GGG's opponents. Straight comedy.
You doubled down on the backwards logic with Kovalev: Again, GGG fans say it was unfair for Jacobs to rehydrate over 10lbs vs GGG at middleweight, yet they criticize Canelo who was jumping up 2 divisions for Kovalev. The claim that he wouldn't give him more time is more straight BS. Not only did he not have a problem with Kovalev having more time, he had pushed to step in for Yarde, but Kovalev didn't get it done on his end. And it was DAZN NOT Canelo who selected the fight date because they wanted it to fall on a separate billing cycle from Joshua-Ruiz II:
The situation wasn't even optimal time from Canelo's end because until Kovalev secured the Yarde win, it was up in the air whether he'd be fighting at 175 or stay at 160. He continued lining up bigger champs, becoming 168 undisputed as the smallest man in the division. Upcoming Bivol repeatedly said he'd be willing move down to 168, but nope, Canelo is moving to his division while talking about the possibility of 175 undisputed. GGG would **** himself thinking about those risks.
And you somehow take a picture of him training to move up in weight talking about how he looks bulky in one angle and slimmer in another angle. Every single aspect of his scenario pointed to contamination including the clean follicle test showing no elevated substances had been present in his system. It would have never been classified as a violation today with WADA acknowledging their policy was flawed for not having a contamination threshold. He's one of the few fighters consistently testing for years in a sport where many others are not only NOT meeting those same standards, they're not submitting to testing period. Even Abel said he considered Canelo vindicated. No doubt history will be kind to him on the issue especially given the complete hypocrisy in the sport:
As for GGG, he lost any high ground on the issue when he went out of his way to hire the biggest criminal PED dealers in US sports, Victor Conte and Remi Korchemny, during a time when he was not testing:Golovkin-Conte-GGG.jpg
So to summarize, GGG fans have plenty of double standards, hypocrisy and phony narratives, you even weirdly keep talking about his dong-- and yet the fact remains comfort zone GGG never took those kinds of risks-- and yes, even turned down the trilogy 2 years ago saying they'd rather continue fighting stiffs like he doesn't have enough of them already.
Side note: the problem with a fighter being happy to coast vs scrubs and make his legacy mostly about one fighter, is that if he loses, it's going to be all the more damaging to his career. Hyped up favorite GGG was already beaten at his own game by Canelo, and if he takes a second loss in their trilogy it's going to be a huge blow. Even after his Derevyanchenko fight, GGG fanboy Kellerman called for a reassessment saying his career didn't deliver on all the hype.
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Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Postyou obviously miss the point Ggg is making - if Canelo claims it’s personal and there’s bad blood - WHY not make the 3rd fight immediately after the 2nd? All this supposed “bad blood”, why did it take over 2 years to make the 3rd fight? Canelo calls his own shots, one would think him having all this “bad blood” with Ggg he would be anxious to get at Ggg a 3rd time.Last edited by Boxing-1013; 03-23-2022, 11:29 AM.
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