Comments Thread For: Fury To Box as 'Overseas' Fighter Against Whyte, Explains Why and Talks Camp

[Robbie Barrett]

All to avoid UKAD testing. All fighters with a British license have to take UKAD random testing and they already caught him before.

[Toffee]

Yeah it’s definitely tax reasons. Fury’s UKAD issues are long over. He “served” some sort of backdated ban. I’m pretty sure he used the BBBofC for the Seferi and Pianeta fights.

It's definitely not tax. He's either a resident or he's not (defined by tax laws - number of days resident, not by boxing licences).

Either way, the UK will take it's cut. But you can bet he'll have some creative accounting going on and some interesting locations for payments.

[RoadMan94]

I never claimed I knew all the facts, and actually deferred to your apparent greater wisdom. So I’ll ask you again, just how exactly did UKAD mess up the Fury situation? And UKAD knew that they wouldn’t win on what basis, that Fury’s wild boar testicle excuse was valid and meant he should escape any punishment?

Tbh I’d agree that UKAD lack credibility in as much as they allowed Fury to continue fighting Klitschko, despite testing positive after the fight beforehand against Hammer, and seemingly letting Whyte off the hook with his positive dbol result. Although in Whyte’s case, at least he could point to negative tests taken with VADA at the same time, but still a su****ious mess of a situation regardless.

The reality is UKAD is a non-profit organisation with limited public funding, and evidently don’t have the appetite for lengthy and costly court battles with multi-millionaire boxers, backed by powerful legal teams. Even if UKAD’s decisions were enforced in court, they’d still be left with huge legal bills to settle. And for the record, Fury was already in litigation with UKAD and both had already spent a load of money in court, which you’d have known if you “knew the facts”.

Glad you agree it was a pathetic deal by UKAD though - Fury was let off the hook big time.

Go research what nandrolone actually is and you’ll learn our own bodies produce it.

ukad jumped the gun. UKAD GOT AWAY WITH IT.


a court case shouldn’t frighten them. They’re a governing body of sorts. I don’t agree with you. I strongly disagree.

[Blackstarr]

Go research what nandrolone actually is and you’ll learn our own bodies produce it.

ukad jumped the gun. UKAD GOT AWAY WITH IT.


a court case shouldn’t frighten them. They’re a governing body of sorts. I don’t agree with you. I strongly disagree.

I know exactly what it is..just like other certain androgens, nandrolone naturally exists in TRACE amounts. Fury obviously had elevated amounts, just like any cheat who misuses androgenic-anabolic steroids to attain a level ABOVE what the human body can naturally produce. Are you really this dense?

And how exactly did UKAD jump the gun if they didn’t provisionally suspend him after the positive test from the Hammer fight or even release the findings? They gave Fury ample time to explain himself, and munching on wild boar testicles was the best excuse he could come up with.

And what did UKAD get away with precisely? You still haven’t even explained exactly how they messed up. The more I speak to you, the more I’m convinced you’re either a dumb f*** or you’re shamelessly lying to protect Fury somehow, neither of which is a good look.

[tokon]

he is the WBC champion and will be enrolled in WBCs clean boxing program for testing.
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Yeah, and we know how comprehensive that bs program is don't we.

Ukad will do the absolute minimum testing as stipulated in contracts - probably just ore and post fight.

There won't be any additional contractusl random testing of either of these two ped cheats.

[jonnyc420]

I'm pretty sure that I remained a fan of : Roman Gonzalez, Jermell Charlo, Nonito Donaire, Jose Ramirez, James Degale, Amir Khan, Regis Prograis, Jose Pedraza, Teofimo Lopez, Kosei Tanaka, Kazuto Ioka, Felix Alvarado, Danny Garcia and the list goes on.

And even after Deontay lost twice, I still supported him. But when he revealed that he did not believe all the crap he spoke during the trilogy, only to contradict himself and betraying his fans by congratulating a man that he claimed cheated, I felt betrayed ; and I dont have to support a fraud.

But you will still be celebrating your moral victory in Deontay Wilder vs. the Gypsy-Cheat because I went in and hurt your feelings. Listen, I already won no matter what Tyson does from this point he will always be a fraud, you can not change history.

You felt betrayed by a guy who owes you nothing and has no idea who you are? Talk about a pathetic life to lead. You never hurt my feelings, I always seem to be in your head rent free though which is hilarious because you always have to drag me into giving you another verbal beatdown. It's like you enjoy making yourself look dumb. Tyson Fury broke you mentally and you will never recover from it. Trash him all you want but the fact is he beat your hero to the point you turned your back on him. You are right you can not change history which is why I will always label you the backstabbing coward you are.

[kafkod]

You’re reaching here..backdated bans are not uncommon and are by no means an acknowledgment of any error. In Fury’s case, UKAD were backed into it because of the subsequent long legal battle with the Furys that had cost them over £500k and counting, and were bullied into a compromise.

But since you’re so clued up on the facts though, just how did UKAD mess up in Fury case? And I ask out of genuine interest. Are you saying that they should have accepted his stated excuse of consuming wild boar testicles as justification for his and Hughie Fury’s positive nandrolone test, and let him walk away scot free?

By claiming things prematurely. They were backed into it? You mean fury was gonna take them to court? That’s facts. They decided they wouldn’t win. They obviously aren’t the leading ANTI DOPING Agency if one fighter terrified them into making a pathetic deal.

I never claimed it was uncommon. The whole point is the dude claiming he has an OUTSTANDING BAN.

Where did Whyte B Sample go again? Did they not mess up they’re either? Lmao.

BBBOC & UKAD are a joke. With 0 credibility outside of 15 people in the U.K.

i know more facts about Fury’s case then you do. I can bet my house on it!

Regarding Whyte's B sample. It didn't come into the case because Whyte elected to have it decided on the evidence of the A sample alone, plus 2 VADA tests taken the day before and the day after his UKAD test, which both came back clean.

The B sample can only be used to clear an athlete. If it turns out to be different than the A sample in any way at all, that proves an error must have occurred in the testing process and the accusation is withdrawn. UKAD withdrew their charge against Dillian anyway, so there was no need for him to fall back on his B sample.

I read the whole of the joint statement released by UKAD and Team Fury after their case was settled out of court. UKAD admitted breaking their own protocol by waiting 15 months to charge Tyson and Hughie Fury with a doping offence after testing them. This made it impossible for Tyson and Hughie to contest the charge by referring to sources of possible contamination. Any evidence they might have been able to produce from supplements, boar meat, whatever, had been disposed of long before the charge was brought. That was the basis of the counter suite for defamation and loss of earnings brought by Team Fury against UKAD.

UKAD were clearly worried about losing that case and being forced into bankruptcy by the damages they would have had to fork out, but luckily for them, they had a "get out of jail free" card up their sleeve. After the initial charge was made, UKAD sent a testing team to the Fury gym to obtain more samples. Tyson Fury refused to be tested, abused the UKAD team and basically kicked them out of the gym. This gave them 2 more charges to bring against him ... refusing to provide a sample when requested (2 year ban) and abusive language towards a UKAD official (2 year ban).

UKAD made a deal with Team Fury whereby they agreed to drop the 2 extra charges against Tyson in return for Team Fury dropping the defamation charge against them and accepting back-dated 2 year bans for Tyson and Hughie on the nandrolone charge.

[Jim Tom]

It’s sad when drug cheats can violate rules and get away with it. Fury should have been punished because he put the lives of other fighters at risk through doping.

[P to the J]

Gypsy Boar is avoiding UKAD.
No wonder he's been roid-raging for the past couple of weeks.

Lol, classic nickname

[P to the J]

It’s sad when drug cheats can violate rules and get away with it. Fury should have been punished because he put the lives of other fighters at risk through doping.

Not to defend Fury by any stretch, but same for his upcoming opponent.