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  • tritium_arma
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    #51
    Of course he'll say this as Lomachenko nears an agreement with another fighter.

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    • TDLand
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      #52
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      He'll dance with anyone except Devin Haney.

      Lomachenko's side even dropped the WBC belt rather than have Devin hanging around as a potential mandatory.

      ​​​​​​Let's give the complete narrative.
      Haney was not a mandatory for Loma when Loma beat Campbell. Haney still had a fight to go. After Haney's win a mando with Loma could not be ordered so Haney went into social media trying to entice Loma to fight him first before fighting for the fourth belt. Haney was not declared mando for Loma. Loma was going for undisputed and no mando for any of the three belts that Loma held could be ordered until after Loma fought for the fourth belt. Undisputed trumps mando. And the other two belts were held longer by Loma so deserved mando declaration with Loma before Haney. Haney petitioned for the belt Loma won off of Campbell after Loma was recognized with Franchise. Haney was not handed the belt automatically. He whined and was given it as part of the woke culture. Don't want to insult the black fighter. Give him a free belt before he claims racism. He was given the belt when he should have fought for the vacant belt like Loma and Campbell were forced to do. If they wanted to give the vacant belt to someone, they would have given it to Campbell and Loma or Haney would have had to fight the belt holder. That's not how it was. Campbell and Loma fought for a vacant belt. Why Loma and not Haney? Because Loma was higher ranked overall in context than Haney. Haney was pissed. But he still is not the same quality as the two time Gold medalist and fighter who fought 11 champions in his first 15 fights and won five major belts in his first 15 fights. Haney is chump change in comparison.

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      • TDLand
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        #53
        Originally posted by jonnyc420
        We all know Floyd was terrified for Porky, wonder what has changed. Could it be that Loma is slowing down now. He'll never live it down. Stick to those 2nd and 3rd tier boxers. Showtime will even hide the low PPV buys.
        Opponents records Side by Side Comparison. Stopped at 14 fights but the rest of Loma's opponents even more impressive. Tank's been coddled. That zero losses is being protected. He fights Loma and he gets his first loss. Floyd won't let it happen.
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        Loma Tank
        W L | W L
        opponent 25 03 | 00 04
        opponent 41 12 | debut
        opponent 24 00 | debut
        opponent 51 01 | 04 07
        opponent 25 02 | 01 01
        opponent 25 04 | 02 08
        opponent 29 02 | 03 09
        opponent 26 00 | debut 00
        opponent 20 01 | 47 31
        opponent 25 02 | 04 04
        opponent 17 00 | 05 03
        opponent 44 03 | 08 01
        opponent 25 01 | 40 18
        opponent 22 02 | 17 04
        Last edited by TDLand; 02-18-2022, 06:43 PM.

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        • Hands of Stone
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          #54
          Originally posted by TDLand

          Haney was not a mandatory for Loma when Loma beat Campbell. Haney still had a fight to go. After Haney's win a mando with Loma could not be ordered so Haney went into social media trying to entice Loma to fight him first before fighting for the fourth belt. Haney was not declared mando for Loma. Loma was going for undisputed and no mando for any of the three belts that Loma held could be ordered until after Loma fought for the fourth belt. Undisputed trumps mando. And the other two belts were held longer by Loma so deserved mando declaration with Loma before Haney. Haney petitioned for the belt Loma won off of Campbell after Loma was recognized with Franchise. Haney was not handed the belt automatically. He whined and was given it as part of the woke culture. Don't want to insult the black fighter. Give him a free belt before he claims racism. He was given the belt when he should have fought for the vacant belt like Loma and Campbell were forced to do. If they wanted to give the vacant belt to someone, they would have given it to Campbell and Loma or Haney would have had to fight the belt holder. That's not how it was. Campbell and Loma fought for a vacant belt. Why Loma and not Haney? Because Loma was higher ranked overall in context than Haney. Haney was pissed. But he still is not the same quality as the two time Gold medalist and fighter who fought 11 champions in his first 15 fights and won five major belts in his first 15 fights. Haney is chump change in comparison.
          Bless your heart for the context. I couldn't have written it any better. This should put to bed the narrative that Loma ducked Haney. Haney on the other hand had his chance when he and Loma had no dance partner recently and entertained that fight, then Haney got quiet. Haney is just a tad better than Tank in the ducking despite all the ish he and his father talks. One minute they 'll fight Kambosos on the Moon and recently we hear his dad saying the fight cant be in Australia never mind Kambosos is the unified champion and he's the one that will be putting butts in the seat.

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          • Drigo
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            #55
            Gervonta will be forever inutil baby of Floyd. Will never fight any of these champs...

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              #56
              Gervonta Davis Trainer is Eager for Lomachenko Showdown : ' We Waitin' on That Fight'?
              Well what took you so damn long to be eager for the showdown/fight in the first place?
              Vasiliy Lomachenko wanted the showdown/fight right after you beat Pedraza back in 1/14/2017, that's 5 years ago!
              Five year's later your eager to fight him, get your story straight, the only one who's been waiting for the fight has been Vasiliy.
              The fact is that Floyd Jr., his promoter didn't want to risk Gervonta being beaten, and possibly stopped by Vasiliy.
              Which shows his lack of confidence in his own fighter at that time, If Floyd Jr., didn't have complete confidence in his fighter being the best.
              Then why have Gervonta challenge for, and win a title when he knew that their was another champion out their with even better credential's whom he would be expected to fight.
              I believe that Gervonta wanted the fight as did Vasiliy, the only one who didn't want what would've been a blockbuster PPV fight was Floyd (I want to protect mt fighter) Mayweather Jr.
              The most ironic thing about this waiting/eager for the showdown is that Gervonta stood a good chance of beating Vasiliy back then 5 year's ago.
              Even if he wouldn't have been able to defeat Vasiliy, and that's a big maybe, he would've still been regarded as one of the best in the sport.
              Probably even a bigger star then what he was going into the fight that didn't happen 5 year's ago, because I'm sure that Gervonta would've given a good account of himself win, lose, or draw.
              As it stands now 5 year's later of course Gervonta has a much better chance of defeating Vasiliy since he lost his fight, and title to Teofimo Lopez.
              Not to mention the shoulder surgery that he had to have after the loss, now Floyd Jr.'s team believes is the best time to strike, and they're probably right.

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #57
                Originally posted by TDLand

                Haney was not a mandatory for Loma when Loma beat Campbell. Haney still had a fight to go. After Haney's win a mando with Loma could not be ordered so Haney went into social media trying to entice Loma to fight him first before fighting for the fourth belt. Haney was not declared mando for Loma. Loma was going for undisputed and no mando for any of the three belts that Loma held could be ordered until after Loma fought for the fourth belt. Undisputed trumps mando. And the other two belts were held longer by Loma so deserved mando declaration with Loma before Haney. Haney petitioned for the belt Loma won off of Campbell after Loma was recognized with Franchise. Haney was not handed the belt automatically. He whined and was given it as part of the woke culture. Don't want to insult the black fighter. Give him a free belt before he claims racism. He was given the belt when he should have fought for the vacant belt like Loma and Campbell were forced to do. If they wanted to give the vacant belt to someone, they would have given it to Campbell and Loma or Haney would have had to fight the belt holder. That's not how it was. Campbell and Loma fought for a vacant belt. Why Loma and not Haney? Because Loma was higher ranked overall in context than Haney. Haney was pissed. But he still is not the same quality as the two time Gold medalist and fighter who fought 11 champions in his first 15 fights and won five major belts in his first 15 fights. Haney is chump change in comparison.
                The WBC mandatory hadn't been called so Lomachenko was free to fight Teofimo Lopez. The winner of Lomachenko vs Teofimo would have had to address the Devin Haney issue, though.

                But they made all that go away by requesting Franchise Champion status and dropping the belt. Completely removing Haney from the picture and freezing him out.


                Originally posted by whirlout
                Bless your heart for the context. I couldn't have written it any better. This should put to bed the narrative that Loma ducked Haney. Haney on the other hand had his chance when he and Loma had no dance partner recently and entertained that fight, then Haney got quiet. Haney is just a tad better than Tank in the ducking despite all the ish he and his father talks. One minute they 'll fight Kambosos on the Moon and recently we hear his dad saying the fight cant be in Australia never mind Kambosos is the unified champion and he's the one that will be putting butts in the seat.
                Nope. The narrative will persist and stay alive and well. See above.

                Lomachenko's team did Haney dirty. It is what it is.

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Not after AJ finishes cleaning his clock that he started the first fight.

                  usyk-wins.jpg?resize=600%2C400&ssl=1.jpg
                  At least he is willing to face top opposition even if he loses.

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                  • daggum
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    He'll dance with anyone except Devin Haney.

                    Lomachenko's side even dropped the WBC belt rather than have Devin hanging around as a potential mandatory.

                    ​​​​​​Let's give the complete narrative.
                    lets give the complete narrative says the guy who says loma dropped the belt when thats not what happened at all. also its your pure speculation that he was upgraded because of haney when it could be any number of reasons. if you actually look at the context of what happened, loma fought the #1 guy in the division, since when is that a bad thing? also if you look at the complete narrative loma tried to fight haney after the lopez fight and haney chose to fight linares which proves he wasnt ever serious about fighting loma, he was just using his name to hype himself up. need more evidence? dazn never made a single offer to loma. belt or not, you can still make the guy an offer and they didnt. they made kambosos plenty of offers...they never wanted loma. they were using his name. its clear. dont live in a single cherry picked moment
                    Last edited by daggum; 02-18-2022, 10:20 PM.

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                    • daggum
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      The WBC mandatory hadn't been called so Lomachenko was free to fight Teofimo Lopez. The winner of Lomachenko vs Teofimo would have had to address the Devin Haney issue, though.

                      But they made all that go away by requesting Franchise Champion status and dropping the belt. Completely removing Haney from the picture and freezing him out.




                      Nope. The narrative will persist and stay alive and well. See above.

                      Lomachenko's team did Haney dirty. It is what it is.
                      haney's bluff got called though. why are you ignoring that part? loma tried to fight him and haney fought linares instead. haney even wanted 5 million to fight loma after that. he just didnt want the fight. why are you defending a guy who lied and pretended he wanted to fight? you are the one who refuses to look at the complete narrative, instead choosing to live in one moment in time when haney looked like the big bad boogeyman but in reality he never made any attempts or offers to fight lomachenko and when loma tried to fight him he chose other opponetns and priced himself out. the guy tried to get the kambosos fight so bad but never tried to fight loma in any way. sorry saying i want to fight him on twitter doesnt count!
                      Last edited by daggum; 02-18-2022, 10:21 PM.

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